Depression...

[Curious_AJ]

thank you... and good.. mods are here... yet, people are being nasty.. i cal for a deletion of posts... but then... you'r mods.. so i shouldnt be telling you what to do... lol...

[Ixion]

Mr Dickhead's dickery has been removed to the usual place (along with some non-objectionable responses to him). And the barrel of the infractionater is glowing red hot

My own feeling is that some of the recent "religious" posts are edging too far off topic. But this is your thread and I'm open to what you people think - by post or PM. We can leave them, remove them to the Scottish Thread , or split them into their own, non-PD thread.

I'll wait a bit for input, unless things start going off the rails.

[Curious_AJ]

i think leave them and get back onto topic...

but maybe putting then into a non-PD thread may be good as well.. however.. there was a religious ravings one that went to PD quite fast.... and those posts are valid above..

so i say leave them..

[Steam]

I am here AJ, I like reading your posts, they make me feel less lonely. Stay and post some more please.

[Curious_AJ]

thanks, thats good to know... i'm rather lonely tonight... my family is here.. but i dont really like my family, so it doesnt make me feel any less lonely or bored... which sucks... i want to move out.. but im too poor!! AAH woe is poor AJ... and yeah, im staying.. i had a hiatus on this thread for a while due to feeling like i made it all about me .. hah... i tend to be really self-centred.. *sigh*... but yes.. ill stay and discuss things with you and to help with loneliness is good...

misery loves company

[Steam]

Misery loves company indeed! I tend to go away by myself when I'm depressed and instead use the internet (and KB) for company. To counter this tendency I have moved my computer to the lounge, where I must sit with my flatmates, even if I don't talk much. They understand, which is good.

[Grahameeboy]

thanks, thats good to know... i'm rather lonely tonight... my family is here.. but i dont really like my family, so it doesnt make me feel any less lonely or bored... which sucks... i want to move out.. but im too poor!! AAH woe is poor AJ... and yeah, im staying.. i had a hiatus on this thread for a while due to feeling like i made it all about me .. hah... i tend to be really self-centred.. *sigh*... but yes.. ill stay and discuss things with you and to help with loneliness is good...

misery loves company

I know how you feel when it comes to Family.......

Hey sometimes we get self centred which is alright when you don't let it affect over people (and you haven't)....number 1 is important at times.

Sometimes 'there is someone else worse than me' does not always help and why should it.

I have probably suffered from anxiety sometimes the last few years due to circumstances, you know when you just don't always handle things the way you used to and that often makes you feel worse cause you get cross with yourself.......I tend to keep in inside and deal with it and my 4 year old Daughter has taught me a lot

[mikey]

I know how you feel when it comes to Family.......

Hey sometimes we get self centred which is alright when you don't let it affect over people (and you haven't)....number 1 is important at times.

Sometimes 'there is someone else worse than me' does not always help and why should it.

I have probably suffered from anxiety sometimes the last few years due to circumstances, you know when you just don't always handle things the way you used to and that often makes you feel worse cause you get cross with yourself.......I tend to keep in inside and deal with it and my 4 year old Daughter has taught me a lot

its so cool, almost sureal that a retarded 4 yr old gives you HOPE.

hope isnt real.

[Curious_AJ]

yeah... the thing is, im trying to be strong for my REAL family (my group of friends and including indy) we're all finding it rather hard for different reasons lately... and we tend to bring eachother down sometimes... I've taken it upon mysefl to be the bright and shiney one (on the bus home toay i made the promise to myself) ... see, maybe if i try to be bright and shiney for others, it will help me... the main thing is, that to me, i'm not important really.. so i should be less self-centered .. its just hard when under stress in a course where i'm so outnumbered by experienced farm and animal people (doing vet nursing) that i feel insignificant ....

but besides that, the theory work is what i do well. i have a B to A average in my assignments where others dont...... but yes... its all just STRESS!! and nothing helps... so therefore.. im trying to be positive and bright and shiney, as opposed to my usual pesimistic dark and twisty...

[Grahameeboy]

its so cool, almost sureal that a retarded 4 yr old gives you HOPE.

hope isnt real.

Thanks for your contribution.........

[Grahameeboy]

yeah... the thing is, im trying to be strong for my REAL family (my group of friends and including indy) we're all finding it rather hard for different reasons lately... and we tend to bring eachother down sometimes... I've taken it upon mysefl to be the bright and shiney one (on the bus home toay i made the promise to myself) ... see, maybe if i try to be bright and shiney for others, it will help me... the main thing is, that to me, i'm not important really.. so i should be less self-centered .. its just hard when under stress in a course where i'm so outnumbered by experienced farm and animal people (doing vet nursing) that i feel insignificant ....

but besides that, the theory work is what i do well. i have a B to A average in my assignments where others dont...... but yes... its all just STRESS!! and nothing helps... so therefore.. im trying to be positive and bright and shiney, as opposed to my usual pesimistic dark and twisty...

You are important...never forget that......yeah it is stress but stress should not be diminished.

[Ixion]

Thanks for your contribution.........

I saw it . I'm in two minds about it, but gave it the benefit of the doubt. It could actually be inspirational.

[Grahameeboy]

I saw it . I'm in two minds about it, but gave it the benefit of the doubt. It could actually be inspirational.

No cool.....he red rep me over Gaymeboy saying DICKHEAD.....not the first time he has sent me a pointless red rep......if it keeps him happy that is good

[smoky]

one thing about faith...
what happens if you cant find what you truely believe in... your pressured by your religious parents (catholic father in my case) yet you arent sure if what youve been brought up to believe is what you actually believe

What you've expressed is sooooo common.

It’s interesting that religion is becoming a big part of this thread – which is about depression, so many people have linked lack of belief with part of the reason people suffer from depression – or at lest they offer religion as a pill.

How about the concept of guilt – our culture uses religion to try to moderate behaviour, non-compliance then creates guilt – of which you have expressed in the above post.
I suggest we stop judging our selves by those miss construed religious ideologies, stop feeling guilty or hopeless.
Thinking about my own journey - that was a huge thing to get over, the religious abuse in my past.
The other biggie with depression was friendship, having honest friendship – people who accepted me as I am. Funny thing is the only way of finding that is by giving it out – loving people and giving our friendship with out conditions, accepting people as they are.

I believe if you live a pure life, pure as defined by a good heart, doing things from a positive, caring and honest way, then you’ll reap what you sow. Peace.
If you remain open, and if there is a god – an overall omnipotent being, then surely she can find us, get our attention.

[Curious_AJ]

thats really insiteful smoky... thanks...

as for being important.. im not important in the grand scheme of things, what are we in a huge cosmos of space, time and the continuum, but i tiny little blip, thats hardly even readable on the scale!

its just like in the scheme of other people in my life, they are way more important to me, than i will ever be to myself... I guess I'm only lucky that someone feels that I'm the one thats important... i suppose its what keeps things moving on my end...