Winja spotted in Papatoetoe

[RT527]

No one put a gun to anyone's head and said "be an ambo", "be a policeman" or "be a fireman". If you don't like that part of the job, go sit behind a desk.

Um what exactly are you on.....I don't mind going to Accidents at all ...as long as someone has taken measures to protect themselves then its not an issue....but we are people who try to help, I do it because I care ....not to Ride the big red truck....I had an opinion which also noted that they are free to do what they want .

Each to there own I suppose. I choose to wear my gear hot or not. It wont stop me from getting hurt but I might be able to save some tax payers money by not having as much rehabilitation to go through...Meh what the heck I wasnt saying he couldn't wear only jandals and shorts and tee, just noted that i tought he was a dork for doing that ...just because I can.

[Edbear]

If others can take the time to think about others, Ie: Ambo`s Police and Fire ...then why dont people stop taking us for granted and think about us for a change ...then they might wear their gear .

(10whatsits)

[RT527]

(10whatsits)

Yeah I Don`t think I said that Right.
It came out a bit selfish so have edited it out.

Apologies to any FFighters ambos or cops on here.

[doc]

Fine your medical is taken care of...its the acc componant that pays the thousands of dollars for someone to come save you!!!.

So if we follow all the advertising and the toll comes down ,accidents down ,less trauma. Does this mean the few that are injured will have horrendous, ACC levies to keep "the Ambulance at the bottom of the cliff " Or will there be less Ambulance's at the bottom of the cliff. Emergency services have become a growth industry they even have Reality TV shows around them. Once the inertia starts beyond a volunteer service it has to keep perpetuating to get career advancement for those who seek it as a career.
Its gone from the 3 x p's (pick dem up, pop dem in da back and piss off to hosp) to Paramedics with university degrees in first aid. I don't think you will get much sympathy from a lot of people on this site if you complain about the mess, thats what the emergency services are there for. The bigger the mess the betta the job, betta discussion back at the station, betta than false alarms. You can't say thats not valid in Emergency work.

[Edbear]

Yeah I Don`t think I said that Right.
It came out a bit selfish so have edited it out.

Apologies to any FFighters ambos or cops on here.

No, no, my good Sir! 'Tis I must apologise for being obtuse!

That people would be so reasonable as to consider the rights and feelings of others, including those such as yourself and similar professions before doing things that affect these others is a seeming anathema in this day and age!

We live in a society that seems to place great emphasis on personal "rights" and freedoms but little or none on caring for the rights of others, such as those who get the job of picking up the pieces, (literally a times!)

Those who protest their "right" to wear what they please and ride as they please without regard for the above, perhaps should actually take a reality check and consider what actually happens when someone is seriously hurt in a accident. Nice to say, "It's my choice and I'll take the consequences", but that is not real life I'm afraid. If they were lying broken and bleeding in a ditch, in agonising pain, would they say to you and your comrades, "Go away, mate! I deserve this and I'll deal with it on my own, thanks!"

I have nothing but admiration and respect for you all!

[DUCATI*HARD]

bee proof
wasp proof
waterproofand bulletproof.........not

[RT527]

So if we follow all the advertising and the toll comes down ,accidents down ,less trauma. Does this mean the few that are injured will have horrendous, ACC levies to keep "the Ambulance at the bottom of the cliff " Or will there be less Ambulance's at the bottom of the cliff. Emergency services have become a growth industry they even have Reality TV shows around them. Once the inertia starts beyond a volunteer service it has to keep perpetuating to get career advancement for those who seek it as a career.
Its gone from the 3 x p's (pick dem up, pop dem in da back and piss off to hosp) to Paramedics with university degrees in first aid. I don't think you will get much sympathy from a lot of people on this site if you complain about the mess, thats what the emergency services are there for. The bigger the mess the betta the job, betta discussion back at the station, betta than false alarms. You can't say thats not valid in Emergency work.

Fair call doc....but this is life and its always changing, Like our work load hence the reason we are now called Fire And Rescue.

Even our medical calls are on the up and we aren't even a co responder station.
Also I'm not after sympathy just a little understanding that we are human and have family's to go home too, Who are often our ambulances at the bottom of the cliff. Just because we volunteer, it doesn't mean we are robots with little feeling for life....And yes if it got to me i wouldn't do it...but you have to wonder sometimes are they really that dumb?(Accident victims)

[SlowHand]

ohhhhh but us tough and oh so serious biker types turn it around and make it a huge flippin political debate. Why? What does that do?

Tee Hee! Flippin' in Jandal thread!

[Mr Skid]

Tee Hee! Flippin' in Jandal thread!

Yeah!

So why does a decent thread about jandals have to be hijacked for a discussion about safety and social contract theory?

What's up wid' 'dat?

[ceebie13]

Here's a thought:
If we have a right to individual choice regarding protective gear (regardless of which side of the fence you sit on), then why are we "forced" to wear a helmet?

Or put it another way, why did they stop at helmets when legislating about protective gear? Why aren't we legally obliged to wear approved gloves, leathers, etc.?

[Chisanga]

He definatly is if you cant stay on a VTR 250 ffs, stay home.

Nice to see you live up to your name

[Thumper]

what a load of fuckin bullshit. are you teling me that if you crash you will turn down offers of ACC payments for your time off work, turn down government offers of payment for hospitalisation for skin grafts?? dont write bullshit comments like that, that are clearly not true... taking responsibility,, ffs, your a fuckwit.

I am trying to decide if I should take the mindless musings of a Village Idiot seriously.

When considering the context of my “taking responsibility” I felt that I was reasonably clear that I understood (and therefore took responsibility for) the added risk of rolling out of my garage on my bike as opposed to my cage.

I understand that it is significantly more dangerous riding a bike than driving a car due to many factors most of which are out side of my control. A cage WILL pull out in front of me when I am on my bike, a cage WILL move over onto me in the traffic, the oil will rise off the road after a brief shower and road paint will attempt at every opportunity to throw me off my bike. Despite these (and many more) threats I still choose to accept the added risks of riding a motorcycle. I am responsible for that decision, nobody else is. I cannot say “I did not know it was more dangerous to ride my bike than take almost any other form of transport”.

It is in that context that my statement of “taking responsibility” was made. Look at the full post not one line in isolation.