Yippie!!! I passed!

[WickedOne]

lol yeah... thats a whole other story all together.

Before I did my test I was really nervous about taking Sam pillion and used the excuse "when I get my full", now I have my full and this weekend past I took her twice on the ZXR and she HATES it.

She keeps comparing me taking her pillion to others, she doesn't get the whole ZXR & little me, compared to 600cc+ bikes with guys 80kg's+, plus differenr styled bikes (sports vs upright etc).

On the way to Albany on Sunday morning she was semi ok, on the motorway, going slightly faster then the speed limit... no problem... got onto The Ave/Paremoremo Rd and its an 80k zone and I'm doing 60kph and shes squeezing me to slow down... I found that VERY annoying.

Leaving Albany on Sunday night, it was dark and the roads where wet (but it had stopped raining by the time we left), and the whole way home she was squeezing me to slow down, at one point I was doing 60kph on the motorway and got really pissed off, so I ignored her and rode to how I felt comfortable...

We had to stop at 3 sets of lights on the way home and all 3 lights I brakes so slowly and gradually (and very gently... I am getting much better) and all 3 times Sam ended up leaning her full weight into my back, by the time we got home I struggled to stand upright once I got off the bike...

lol so I hate taking her pillion, she pisses me off too much. But we'll see...

Didn't she have her hands on the tank? She shouldn't be pushing on you at all, that is why her hands are on the tank in the first place....

[crashe]

Maybe you need to have someone who is a experienced rider who is used to taking pillions to ride beside you to watch and see what the heck is going on...
Maybe she aint sitting right.... or is it your riding style......
Maybe Sam needs to start sitting up more and holding onto the pack rack rails instead of you.

Or maybe take a experienced pillion on the back to see if there is a difference.
and that pillion gives you some feedback.

Or maybe Sam buys her own blardy bike and stops the bitching.......

[placidfemme]

Didn't she have her hands on the tank? She shouldn't be pushing on you at all, that is why her hands are on the tank in the first place....

I know, it completely caught me off guard the first time, the second and third time it took all my remaining energy to stop myself elbowing her in the ribs, it really hurt my back.

I don't know what she was doing differently, but she was banging her helmet against mine even when I wasn't changing gears/braking, she was just freaking out....

When we got to the lights at the Albany onramp she was telling me to get off at Takapuna cause she didn't think I could handle the Onewa Rd offramp, which pissed me off... so I took Onewa anyway (hahaha) and it was fine... until we got to the set of lights and I had her full weight on my back, stopping and trying to hold the bike up while waiting for the lights and also trying to hold her up was just crazy.

Needless to say we had a huge fight when we got home... (feel the loveeeeee ) I don't know if she was really jittery because of the wet roads, or because of the things she had consumed before we left, but either way it pissed me off.

[placidfemme]

Maybe you need to have someone who is a experienced rider who is used to taking pillions to ride beside you to watch and see what the heck is going on...
Maybe she aint sitting right.... or is it your riding style......
Maybe Sam needs to start sitting up more and holding onto the pack rack rails instead of you.

Or maybe take a experienced pillion on the back to see if there is a difference.
and that pillion gives you some feedback.

Or maybe Sam buys her own blardy bike and stops the bitching.......

Thats not a bad idea... But I'd need an experienced pillion rider who weighs about the same as Sam... otherwise I'd be even more screwed lol

[crashe]

I don't know if she was really jittery because of the wet roads, or because of the things she had consumed before we left, but either way it pissed me off.

And there is the answer...........
You have never pillioned her before when this has happened....

She got rather paranoid I would be thinking..... reacting differently to how she has sat before...... the whole thing was different.

Try pillioning her again but not with other consumables....... and see what happens.

Otherwise try the other things I suggested.


Another thing to do, if you are not happy with the pillion (being Sam) and what she was doing..
Stop and both get off and say to her, unless you stop the BS you are going to walk home. You (PF) are the person in charge of the bike.... she is putting you and her at risk. If you felt is was the other stuff.... then wait on the side of the road until you feel she is ok again.

Do not allow you and your pillion to be at risk.

[placidfemme]

And there is the answer...........
You have never pillioned her before when this has happened....

She got rather paranoid I would be thinking..... reacting differently to how she has sat before...... the whole thing was different.

Try pillioning her again but not with other consumables....... and see what happens.

Otherwise try the other things I suggested.


Another thing to do, if you are not happy with the pillion (being Sam) and what she was doing..
Stop and both get off and say to her, unless you stop the BS you are going to walk home. You (PF) are the person in charge of the bike.... she is putting you and her at risk. If you felt is was the other stuff.... then wait on the side of the road until you feel she is ok again.

Do not allow you and your pillion to be at risk.

Well thats what part of the fight was about, I told her that she needs to trust me, if shes going to consume alcohol and stuff knowing she is going to be pillion with me then she needs to make a choice before getting on the bike. When she is constantly squeezing me to slow down and stuff then it adds a lot more stress to myself, taking her pillion stresses me anyway just because I have her life in my hands, but when she starts to freak out and keeps letting me know about it, it makes me start to feel insecure with her on the back...

She seems to think its all me, afterall she's never felt like that when pillion with anyone else. At Puhoi Wendy (aka experienced pillion) gave her heaps of advice, so has Jaq's (or Jax... or whatever lol), but it seems to go in one ear and out the other as soon as she gets on the back. I told her when we are on straights (motorways etc) she can sit up and hold my sides or the pack rack, and then when it comes to the corners and stuff, to lean on the tank, but she reckons it hurts her arms too much, and she's just scared on the back of the ZXR...

*doesn't know what to do now*

[crashe]

The only bike that I know she has been on the back of, was Bugjuice's bike....
other than your bike.


So make a rule...... no booze etc etc etc... and must be totally 'straight' when on the back of the bike... since it impedes her reality of what is happening around her.

If she dont feel comfortable....... then she buys her her own bike and then she will be happy....
Please note I said that SHE BUYS HER OWN BIKE.

You also must feel comfortable having a pillion on the back.... if not dont take a pillion.



I dont take pillions, unless it is to help out in a emergancy..... cos Im not that comfy having a pillion on the back of my bike. But will do it as i said only in a emergancy.

[Wolf]

Hearty congratulations, Tammy. Keep it rubber side down.

[placidfemme]

The only bike that I know she has been on the back of, was Bugjuice's bike....
other than your bike.

she's been on Bugjuices 636, WickedOnes & his dad (same bike, different colours), TIE's old bike (can't remember the made/model) and I think thats about it. So as I mentioned, all the previous bikes she has been on are bigger and more powerful than mine, plus the riders have all been bigger than me too... so totally different bike set up, style and everything.

I've told her that more we do it the better it will get... she'll learn to read my body language and trust my decisions. She will also learn to adapt to the riding style for pillion on the ZXR.

[Guitana]

Yeeee Fucken Haaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!

[Skunk Control]

Congratulations well done, time for a new bike