125 2t vs 250 2t vs 250 4t

[charles23]

4T is the way of the future, if you want a 2T get a VMX

[barty5]

ive had all sort two cr250 the last was tweaked all over oldie but a goodie a 92 with exhuast done ported yz 2003 front end ohlins rear and a large list of other bits was a real screamer and fun to ride. Traded it on the yz426f (now in bits but very easy to work on stripped down in 1 hour ) but the bite it has over the 250 wouldnt trade with the right tyres never found anything cant get through or over there allways something it pull out the bag to supprise me with the handling as for the starting ive got the 450 auto cam in it and it allways starts hot one or two kicks if really hot pull hot start and bang your off. till the big end gose but ill get over that soon

[dammad1]

Its funny how people now say that starting the four strokes is no longer a problem, but its amazing how many guys you see out on these rides struggling to start them.

[charles23]

I had way more problems trying to start my KDX than I do now with my Husky, it's a breeze, electric!!!!!!!! hot and cold no problem

[Buddy L]

I had way more problems trying to start my KDX than I do now with my Husky, it's a breeze, electric!!!!!!!! hot and cold no problem

What a lasy guy,
i can start my bike with my hand. hahahaha when its warm.

[FlangMasterJ]

Get a KTM 250SXF. Most reliable modern 4 stroke engine around. Least valve issues of them all. Heard of people checking valves at 100 hours and still being within spec. No problems when starting when hot (that's if you have the jetting sorted).

I weigh 94kg's and I find there is plenty of bottom end grunt to pull me out of corners and a screaming top end that just keeps pulling.

[scott411]

I had way more problems trying to start my KDX than I do now with my Husky, it's a breeze, electric!!!!!!!! hot and cold no problem

real men don't need buttons!!!!!

four strokes can be hard to start, but its in the technique, i can start KXF's and RMZ250's by hand hot or cold, biggest thing people do wrong is to kick them really hard, this does not work, you need to push them though with nice long kicks, and don't twist the throttle,

i have seen guys with electirc start bikes last off the line in dead start races, most holeshots are still got with kickstart bikes as if you can get them to fire they are quicker than an electric start,

comes down to the rider in the end of the day,

[charles23]

real men don't need buttons!!!!!

four strokes can be hard to start, but its in the technique, i can start KXF's and RMZ250's by hand hot or cold, biggest thing people do wrong is to kick them really hard, this does not work, you need to push them though with nice long kicks, and don't twist the throttle,

i have seen guys with electirc start bikes last off the line in dead start races, most holeshots are still got with kickstart bikes as if you can get them to fire they are quicker than an electric start,

comes down to the rider in the end of the day,

the reality is you don't see any "real men" at the front of their cars with a hand crank trying to start them.............so why not move forward and go electric? save the macho stuff for when you are riding. embrace the technology don't get caught in the dark ages.

[xwhatsit]

the reality is you don't see any "real men" at the front of their cars with a hand crank trying to start them.............so why not move forward and go electric? save the macho stuff for when you are riding. embrace the technology don't get caught in the dark ages.

It's lighter? Less complicated? More reliable?

Sorry, I'm not an MXer or anything, but technology for technology's sake can be silly.

[scott411]

It's lighter? Less complicated? More reliable?

Sorry, I'm not an MXer or anything, but technology for technology's sake can be silly.

thank you, i don;t see F1, or indycars with starter motors either, simple and easy and light is quite often better, although i have had times where i would have liked a button, i have also seen a few guys looking for jumper leads in the mornings, i am quite happy to kick for now

[charles23]

It's lighter? Less complicated? More reliable?

Sorry, I'm not an MXer or anything, but technology for technology's sake can be silly.

hey it's just easier.

[charles23]

thank you, i don;t see F1, or indycars with starter motors either, simple and easy and light is quite often better, although i have had times where i would have liked a button, i have also seen a few guys looking for jumper leads in the mornings, i am quite happy to kick for now

F1, indycars and any other top end racing are a different kettle of fish...........where milliseconds count and millions$ are at stake, but hey if your happy kicking so be it.

[scott411]

ill happily kick, knowing that i don't have to carry and extra 10-15kg;s around for the race,