Fully qualified Sifter.
The first 'Bollocks' was for you stating you weren't 'blowing your own trumpet' when the people tell you how hard you must be riding!Originally Posted by idleidolidyll
No big deal if you are....as long as you admit it!
The second one was for that... Faster steering yes, more stable no.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
The reply re chickenstrips was in context not trumpet blowing.
The second, again more declarative statements without any rationale?
Faster steering yes, more stable while cornering: absolutely; the crap bridgestone was all over the place in corners and the front Pirelli was only OK.
So once more, do you have anything other than simplistic declarative statements?
Fully qualified Sifter.
Sure. You first stated "Faster steering and more stable"....no mention of bike being on it's side......Slicks are (as you know) well triangular in shape....and far from 'stable'. Great grip on their 'sides'.....but a bit like riding onn a ball point pen when upright. Besides....the tyre mismatch you had before is hardly a good comparison by you. Listen to all those that HAVE raced on both slicks AND proddie tyres...they're all telling you the same thing.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
indeed, and noting your ahem, 'misunderstanding' i clarified and used 'in corners' from then on which was in fact my point the whole time.
i do note that you continued to ignore that though.
Now as for slicks being 'triangular': ROTFLMFAO! They are curved and quite similar in fact to many sport style road tyres in profile. They are nowhere near triangular.
As for the 'mismatch', have you ridden such a combination? If not, you're once more merely making a declarative statement based on nothing at all.
Once more though, the current grooved slicks are a better ride than the original tyres on the SM and feel better too than Pirelli Diablo/Corsa's on my old supermoto.
"Listen to all those that HAVE raced on both slicks AND proddie tyres...they're all telling you the same thing."
and i'm telling you that ON THE ROAD, these slicks are better than anything I've had on my bikes for the past 5 years. That's not a simple declarative statement, it's based on actual ride time as described in previous posts.
but do go on, i'd expect nothing less
Fully qualified Sifter.
No need for me to go on mate......slicks are indeed VERY TRIANGULAR.
Not nearly as round as your average road tyre (although a lot of road legal race tyres are also now quite 'triangular').....so you've just shown us all what you know about tyres.
They are like this so that once on their 'side' they have a far bigger footprint than a 'round' tyre. Race bikes tend to get thrown on their sides a lot harder and more agressively than riders would want to do on the roads....they like smoother 'tip in'....hence the nicer less agressive 'rounder' shape.
^ vs ) see? Understand? Didn't think so.....
FA. No wonder you were nowhere to be seen on the race tracks.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
that's so funny
should i post a photo of these so called 'triangular' tyres?
As I said, many sports tyres are virtually the same in profile and not at all triangular.
Those old triangular tyres seem to have disappeared in the 80's.
Modern tyres are not at all triangular, they merely have a taller profile but remain quite nicely curved.
"They are like this so that once on their 'side' they have a far bigger footprint than a 'round' tyre. Race bikes tend to get thrown on their sides a lot harder and more agressively than riders would want to do on the roads....they like smoother 'tip in'....hence the nicer less agressive 'rounder' shape."
I see, so even though you say the slicks I have are triangular, you then go on about how they are nice and 'round' because the riders like that profile so they can tip them in fast.....
do you read your posts before you push enter?
BTW: I've never argued that slicks don't have a nice fat footprint tipped over, that's part of the reason they are so stable in corners: rotflmfao!
tell ya what, i'll go take a photo of the so called 'triangular' Pirelli slicks on my bike and post it here. We'll let the members decide whether round is actually triangular.
on the wagon
would you mind posting a pic of the said tyres idleidolidyll?
im keen on a sqiz
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
pics of the Dragon slick profiles front and rear as fitted to the bike in discussion:
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
just posted a profile shot but it doesn't actually show the tyre up well (although it shows the profile perfectly).
I'll go take a couple more for ya and post them here.
I should also note that these are fitted to the standard wheels on the SM. The rear wheel is a 5.5 and I understand that most big bikes will have 6" rear wheels (no, i'm not certain and may stand corrected).
Fitting a 190 to the rear of my bike would therefore make the profile more agressive than on a 6" rim which would tend to flatten the profile out even more (LESS of a 'triangle')
watch this space for the next photos
on the wagon
its tempting.... wonder what slicks would be like on the 10r on the road.....
might just stick to the pp
Fully qualified Sifter.
Cool.....you saved me having to do it!
Please note just how much rubber is practically 'flat' on the side....
for maximum 'foot print' when on it's side. Then have a look at a tennis ball or something that is 'round'??? do the nice wee round balls have an almost flat surface anywhere on them? No? Dind't think so...you see, it's round, not 'triangular'. I think you have taken the use of the word 'triangular' out of context.....but thanks for the pics!
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Here ya go
Tyres have done 18 laps plus 450km on the road now. Pics attached:
One shot shows that there is still plenty of clearance with the fatter rear fitted.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Oh I see, it's 'practically flat' now NOT a triangle!
In fact it's nowhere near a triangle and a very shapely curve.
Who EVER said 'round' mate, that's your spin. I said curved.
Looking even closer, they are even nice and curved where craher says the6y are 'flat'.
The pic he's grabbing shows the tyres edge out of focus merged with the profile making it look like a flat surface when in fact it isn't.
The front is sharper but quite curved, the rear could continue on and make a VERY nice 'round' tennis ball shape.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
uh..........YOU were the one using the term mate, I said they were curved.
In fact quite nicely curved at that
if ya wanna talk 'in context', find a shot of one of those real early slicks, you now, the triangular ones. These modern ones are about as 'triangular' as a soccer ball
on the wagon
i think you guys are just misunderstanding each other, but anyway....
nice bike and nice groove job!
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