Bikes don't make the dangerous list?

[pete376403]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/3962966a11.html.

Quote: "by far the most dangerous adventure sports were found to be horse riding, mountainbiking, tramping and surfing."
None of which pay ANY ACC levy.

So why do we pay such high ACC premiums? (easy answer -to pay for the horsey set, etc)

[Cibby]

probably because we pay registeration therefore the govt has a valid way of charging us, it woudl be impossible to acc levy mountain bikers or surfers etc..

it is ridiculious thou, sports dont pay any acc as far as i'm aware, and yet the acc claims from sports are huge..

perhaps we should petition to make motorcycling a Sport instead of a vehicle or mode of transport...

[Swoop]

"I've sprained my back lifting the gin and tonic!!!" Oooh, off to ACC!!!


WTF.
Scenic flights????

[idleidolidyll]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/3962966a11.html.

Quote: "by far the most dangerous adventure sports were found to be horse riding, mountainbiking, tramping and surfing."
None of which pay ANY ACC levy.

So why do we pay such high ACC premiums? (easy answer -to pay for the horsey set, etc)

I figure the ACC levy I paid through my road taxes and business are well and truly covered by the spinal op and rehab after breaking my back mountainbiking. Without our no fault system or under the US 'system', I'd probably still be paralyzed or at the very least, heavily in debt.
My op would have cost about $50k+ in the US and given the huge rates for health insurance there, I wouldn't have had comprehensive cover.

The gov't has to collect it somehow. My only real beef is that we are charged mopre than tin tops

[Finn]

My op would have cost about $50k+ in the US and given the huge rates for health insurance there, I wouldn't have had comprehensive cover.

Yeah but if your business was in the US, you'd probably be doing so much better and therefore could afford health insurance. Also, your mountain bike would be 1/3 the price.

[idleidolidyll]

Yeah but if your business was in the US, you'd probably be doing so much better and therefore could afford health insurance. Also, your mountain bike would be 1/3 the price.

that'd be why 40 million yanks have no health insurance at all and fuck all have full cover i guess..........yes, sarcasm

no, my bike would probably cost MORE, it'd be sold in yank$

ie; equivalent to my current mtb is a lightspeed or merlin titanium frame, latest XTR disc brakes, lightest hand built wheels etc etc.
Oh yeah, a singlespeed with a titanium ridgid fork.......see photo attached

in the USA it would cost almost double what I paid for it...............but then I AM the importer I guess
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[Finn]

that'd be why 40 million yanks have no health insurance at all and fuck all have full cover i guess..........yes, sarcasm

no, my bike would probably cost MORE, it'd be sold in yank$

ie; equivalent to my current mtb is a lightspeed or merlin titanium frame, latest XTR disc brakes, lightest hand built wheels etc etc.
Oh yeah, a singlespeed with a titanium ridgid fork.......see photo attached

in the USA it would cost almost double what I paid for it...............but then I AM the importer I guess
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Okay, cool. I know where to get my next bike from.

40 million Americans out of 280 million is very good actually.

[idleidolidyll]

" 40 million Americans out of 280 million is very good actually"

versus NZ where virtually nobody is left out because of ACC?

actually it's a shocking stat and even worse when you consider that it's in the richest country on the planet................and that's not even counting the tens of millions more who have only partial cover.

i know where i'd rather have an accident and it aint in the frozen north

[idleidolidyll]

"Okay, cool. I know where to get my next bike from."

Sure, I might even be persuaded to give KR folk a discount on my all titanium mountainbikes. BTW: I sell std style triangle frames as well as the 'newsboy' style.
Also do std 21/27 speed gears (gears are gay, gears for queers, gears for girlz ;-)) and a nice shimano 8 speed hub they've recently released. Hell, I'll even build em with hyd/air suspension on front!

The weight difference between a std triangle frame and the curvy newsboy is about 200 gram

All up weight for a singlespeed mountainbike to top specs is about 8.3kg.

Demo's available, call Mike 021 621507

[Squeak the Rat]

Riding on the road is not a sport, and we should not encourage the government to treat it as such!

[idleidolidyll]

Riding on the road is not a sport, and we should not encourage the government to treat it as such!

how do they treat it as a sport?

ACC levies are not just for sports, they are for all kinds of accidental injury

please elucudate

BTW: the way i ride and why i ride make it a sport, i don't ride as 'transport', i do it for fun, for the pure thrill of riding

[Cajun]

wonder how long before auntie helen bans/taxs some of those 'sports'

[Edbear]

Riding on the road is not a sport, and we should not encourage the government to treat it as such!

These days it seems a lot like "Bullrush!"

[Finn]

versus NZ where virtually nobody is left out because of ACC?

ACC is not free and is therefore insurance but paid by the employer, which supports my thread discussing why everything is overpriced in NZ.

Also, should you require critical or emergency services, NZ's third world hospitals wouldn't come close to the US, assuming you had health insurance and weren't left out in the corridor to die.

What I am saying is you can't have your cake and eat it too. Personally, the user pay system works well for me. Let me decide what services I want covered and let the fat lazy people die in the gutter.

[The_Dover]

let the fat lazy people die in the gutter.

only the bike made it that far.

I was still on my arse on the road.