A question for all KB members

**magicfairy** · 20th February 2007, 07:45

I notice when I go riding that there are VERY FEW women riding bikes, in proportion to the number of men. You notice that in various cafes, top of the Takas, using bike parks round town, organised rides.
We are still a minority.
So if girls only rides help address the imabalance, and get more women out on bikes gaining confidence, surely that is a good thing for both sexes.

**scumdog** · 20th February 2007, 07:49

I fink dey shude be aloud to organize dere oen rides cos den dey don't hold up a blokes on da rode wif dere slo ridding and also wen dey stop for a piss an taek 20 mins to undoo dere pants and have dere piss an doo dere pants up agen insted ov just dooing it standen up kwik lyke insted of holdding da rest of da groop up and alsoe den de blokes dont get wurread watchin de wimmin teettering al over da playce wen dey stop an dere liddle legs cant reech de gownd..

Glad too have helppd

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 20th February 2007, 07:53

Originally Posted by scumdog

I fink dey shude be aloud to organize dere oen rides cos den dey don't hold up a blokes on da rode wif dere slo ridding and also wen dey stop for a piss an taek 20 mins to undoo dere pants and have dere piss an doo dere pants up agen insted ov just dooing it standen up kwik lyke insted of holdding da rest of da groop up and alsoe den de blokes dont get wurread watchin de wimmin teettering al over da playce wen dey stop an dere liddle legs cant reech de gownd..

Glad too have helppd

fanx for da help

**86GSXR** · 20th February 2007, 07:55

Of course the girls should be allowed to organise their own rides. I know several great ladies who ride, and I'd say the primary reason they wish to occassionally ride girls only is simply that there isn't the same pressure to keep up. I mean, lets face it guys, we often have much more powerful bikes, like to ride a little faster, and more often than not are a lot more experienced on bikes.

The ladies I ride with usually say that they hate being the one to hold up the ride, and while it's great to have them along, it's also nice to be able to enjoy the pure riding without worrying whether they've fallen off, broken down, or got lost simply because they quite literally can't keep up.

And it's not as if the girls always ride on their own. Let them build up their confidence and experience, which can only improve the quality of the mixed riding.

**Paul in NZ** · 20th February 2007, 07:56

I don't care.... But - this is why Vicki and I usually slip off on our own - she likes riding with a bloke and I like riding with her and since we ditched the intercom we don't argue much at all...

**MyGSXF:Me** · 20th February 2007, 07:56

I'm with imdying & Joni..

Girls.. just DO IT!!!!

there will ALWAYS be someone who won't like it..

IGNORE them!!!!!!!!! they ain't worth it!!

**justsomeguy** · 20th February 2007, 07:56

Originally Posted by magicfairy

I notice when I go riding that there are VERY FEW women riding bikes, in proportion to the number of men. You notice that in various cafes, top of the Takas, using bike parks round town, organised rides.
We are still a minority.
So if girls only rides help address the imabalance, and get more women out on bikes gaining confidence, surely that is a good thing for both sexes.

That's cos being a petrol head is a more male "type" hobby.

You don't see that many guys playing with dolls and buying makeup either but their numbers are increasing.

**Deviant Esq** · 20th February 2007, 07:56

Originally Posted by apteryx_haasti

PS - deviant if the guys want to make a boys only ride, I don't have a problem with that either.

I very much doubt any member of KB would try to arrange a boys only ride, for a couple of reasons: 1. A lot of rides that happen only involve guys anyway for whatever reason (a major one being not as many of the fairer sex on two wheels), 2. Most guys just love seeing girls on bikes, think it's great, think more girls should do it, and definitely wouldn't turn away a girl wanting to come on a ride, and 3. See below.

Originally Posted by Jim2

Fact - organise a men's only ride - get your arse kicked from here to Timbuktu by CSL.

And, just for the record, if there is one, I wasn't, and won't in future be one of the complainers if someone does try to arrange a gender specific ride. I've got no problems with only girls going for a ride, there are good points going for it, absence of men being the primary one! But since the thread asked for a debate, I thought I'd throw up what another point of view could be.

Let's face it, sexism / gender discrimination is always a testy issue. You have to be pretty open minded about it to discuss it openly without it becoming an emotion raged slanging match.

**gixermike** · 20th February 2007, 07:56

If the girls want to organise girl only rides then thats fine with me..just do it...enjoy it and the lack of bullshit...

If guys want to organise a specifically guys ride then do that too if thats what you want, but I'm not sure I'd be that interested about going on it..I suspect it may just turn into a pissing contest if its advertised as men only...and I think thats probably why the girls want to ride on their own sometimes anyway.

Now I think a proper lads night out would be more fun....oh, and yes..the girls that like girls are more than welcome too..see, nicely inclusive

**ManDownUnder** · 20th February 2007, 07:58

Originally Posted by Kendog

Recent attempts by the ladies to publicly organise a girl only ride has attracted criticism from some male members.

This got me thinking. Is organising a girl only ride in open forums going against the spirit ok KB?
Or should they arrange these rides in secret, or go somewhere else to organise them?

What do you think?

If it's a big deal to you, organise a guys only ride - do guy things... strip bar, have a beer and piss against strainer posts on the roadside.

I mean... is it actually a big deal?

**Toaster** · 20th February 2007, 08:00

I say go for it and organise girls only stuff! Have fun, bond, be free! (I must be having a good morning...)

**Joni** · 20th February 2007, 08:00

Originally Posted by MyGSXF

.. just DO IT!!!!

Yup...If you wanna ride with girls only, do it..... if you wanna ride with guys only, do it....

Who gives a toss?

I started riding to be free... be out there, wind on my body... Im not going to let anyone tell me who I can and cant ride with...

**idleidolidyll** · 20th February 2007, 08:01

1. Post a girls ride on the forum stating the region.

2. Ask all interested to pm the 'leader' or organiser

3. Check their ID and make sure they ARE gals.

4. pm back the details of the ride.

5. If any blokes turn up, work out who they are (i'm sure you'll be able to figure that out)

6. Ignore the men/boys in drag in the future

Tis a pity you may have to do this but I for one would be pissed off if some guys crashed a gals party/ride my wife was involved in. She doesn't want or need the attention, testosterone, distraction, annoyance.

Good on yer all just for riding

**justsomeguy** · 20th February 2007, 08:01

Originally Posted by 86GSXR

Of course the girls should be allowed to organise their own rides. I know several great ladies who ride, and I'd say the primary reason they wish to occassionally ride girls only is simply that there isn't the same pressure to keep up. I mean, lets face it guys, we often have much more powerful bikes, like to ride a little faster, and more often than not are a lot more experienced on bikes.

The ladies I ride with usually say that they hate being the one to hold up the ride, and while it's great to have them along, it's also nice to be able to enjoy the pure riding without worrying whether they've fallen off, broken down, or got lost simply because they quite literally can't keep up.

And it's not as if the girls always ride on their own. Let them build up their confidence and experience, which can only improve the quality of the mixed riding.

Just because they're a girl - doesn't mean they cant ride.

Many women can ride rather well. - If they want to learn to be good riders they learn pretty fast - cue QKCHK, Keystone19, RossiGal, Mrs. NZKALT6 (sorry for the spelling), etc......

**Hans** · 20th February 2007, 08:03

Originally Posted by merv

This surely is a place where everyone can organise what they want so go for it girls.

The dirt rides we've organised on here haven't attracted criticism that they are not road bike friendly and nor would I expect them to do and that's not a lot different in principle.

This forum should be free of rules in my view - if you want rules go join Ulyssess or some other bike club.

I wholeheartedly agree. Organize what you like girls, just make sure The Dover doesn't turn up in drag.