Whetu Te Hiko

[doc]

Im not condoning what this dude did. He took a life he must pay for that crime.


But did he go in the classroom with the intention to murder Lois Dear?

He went there to take her car keys as he was going to steal her car.
She just happened to come across him stealing them.......
and was going to ring the police.

He paniced and tried to stop her............ from calling the police.

Yes he ended up killing her...... and yes he will do time.....

Life now is a minimum of 17 years before parole.
So he wont be going up before the parole board for 17 years.

In the court room he hung his head, he couldn't even look up at his own family...... he has been shamed....... and he knows he has done wrong.

Sure his brother may also be inside for another crime.....
Just cos one family member is inside for a nasty crime doesn't make all family members scum.

We do not know his back ground....... or what he was like...
I am sure it will come out in time.

But he hasnt allowed it to drag out for the victim's family..... he pleaded guilty. Which is good.

Now Lois Dear's family can move on......


Yes a life was taken for a set of car keys..... This guy did a stupid thing and he too is paying... as is his family, as is Lois Dear's family.

Come on you are just trying to wind us up aren't you ? I'll be interested in how compassionate your comments would be after he did this to your mother.

[Ixion]

There is absolutely no evidence anywhere in the world that shows that having a death penalty deters people from murder, rape or any other serious crime against people. And I don't know any country that imposes the death penalty for burglary.

The death penalty is nothing more than statutory revenge. As such it is barbarous and unworthy of anybody who aspires to be part of an enlightened or civilised society.

As long as this oxygen thief never walks freely, I will be happy.

Singapore. And it's statutory efficiency , not revenge. No reason to continue membership of society, therefore terminate. Simple logic. Fortunately I have never aspired to part of an enlightened or civilised society. The one we've got will do fine, just needs tidying up. Starting with the elimination of unproductive parasites - like this one.

[doc]

There is absolutely no evidence anywhere in the world that shows that having a death penalty deters people from murder, rape or any other serious crime against people. And I don't know any country that imposes the death penalty for burglary.

The death penalty is nothing more than statutory revenge. As such it is barbarous and unworthy of anybody who aspires to be part of an enlightened or civilised society.

As long as this oxygen thief never walks freely, I will be happy.

Your evidence doesn't take into account that the perpetrator once executed doesn't ever do it again. Case closed.

[Patrick]

Your evidence doesn't take into account that the perpetrator once executed doesn't ever do it again. Case closed.

And once dead, he costs the taxpayer absolutely nothing instead of bed and lodgings for the next 20 or so years...

[Robbo]

There is absolutely no evidence anywhere in the world that shows that having a death penalty deters people from murder, rape or any other serious crime against people. And I don't know any country that imposes the death penalty for burglary.

The death penalty is nothing more than statutory revenge. As such it is barbarous and unworthy of anybody who aspires to be part of an enlightened or civilised society.

As long as this oxygen thief never walks freely, I will be happy.

Absolute Bullshit!!! Had that bastard Burton been put down after commiting his first murder then we would'nt have lost another innocent citizen.
Same goes to all those other murderers, hang the bloody lot. Your concerns should be directed to the victims and their families, not the worthless scum that carry out these henous crimes with no thoughts about how barbarous their actions are.
Locking them up for life (yeah right) is a cost that we as nz taxpayers do not deserve to be burdeoned with.

[Timber020]

Costs society plenty when an innocent person is executed, which does happen to often. whats the point of killing people for killing innocent people, when the state kills innocent people itself because they were wrongly convicted.

One thing to say its terrible for the family of someone murdered by someone who will spend the next so long in jail, but what about families whose relations are killed by the state. Imagine how the family of Arthur Allen Thomas would have felt. His kids growing up knowing that the state murdered there dad because of a police fix up.

Do you trust the police to handle the evidence that your life depends on?

[BuFfY]

What if the person confesses, is caught on camera and is identified by witnesses.... is it ok then for them to be executed?

[Hitcher]

What if the person confesses, is caught on camera and is identified by witnesses.... is it ok then for them to be executed?

What do you think happens?

[BUNGY]

Prison is so soft now there is no point sending anyone there. The was an article in the paper a while back. Lady killed her baby or something but came out of jail saying how easy it was, even admitted that it was the first time she tried P.

[Quartermile]

Bet it was the first time she tried Sky and had a good meal too what ever happened to no TV, bread and butter

Watching a programme on discovery(not in prison) called FBI files a guy robs a bank and shoots a couple of people in the chaos guess what he got.....

800 years no chance of parol gotta love U.S sometimes

[SPman]

Just give him a CBR1000 and no helmet - job done in a few minutes.......

Prison is so soft now there is no point sending anyone there.

So, you know this, from personal experience?

Or hearsay, like all the other rants!

It's nice to know we live in a civilised caring society, evidenced by the flurry of concern for his wellbeing, being shown on here...

[Shadows]

There is no such thing in NZ law as "X degree" murder. Those who speak of it have been wathing too many yank TV shows. We only have "murder". Pure and simple. No "first degree" "second degree" "third degree".

Yep, second and third degree murders get called "manslaughter". Which, incidentally, is why NZ is considered to be such a safe place to live in when incorrectly compared with the States.

[Patrick]

It's nice to know we live in a civilised caring society, evidenced by the flurry of concern for his wellbeing, being shown on here...

Oops... my bad... Just to clarify...

I don't care whatsoever for the wellbeing for this piece of shite... I wouldn't give him the steam off my mine. My civilised caring goes out to the old dear and her family and friends, school kids she taught etc.

[Finn]

Come on you are just trying to wind us up aren't you ? I'll be interested in how compassionate your comments would be after he did this to your mother.

Crashe has got a mother?

[Guitana]

The thing that concerns me is that when these arseholes are in prison they still are able to intimidate the prison gaurds families,did anyone see the Paper on saturday! The prisons in NZ are too soft and these pricks are given the run of the roost! The only disadvantage of being in prison is that they can't run their Illegal buisness as well as they used to on the outside!
But if you're able to swallow a cell phone whole or ram it so far up your arse that no one is able to find it with a cavity search then it's buisness as usual!!
These inmates sit around all day doing fuck all but plan how to commit crime more efficiently when they get out!!
They need to locate the prisons in a quarry and make these inmates break rocks all day then they will be too fucken tired to harrass the staff and plot more crime!!!