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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    So loud bikes are ok but not loud cars? There would be those in that group who think their car exhausts sound 'horn' and bike exhausts sound like shit.
    Depends who you ask doesn't it

    Let one go you have to let the other go too. Not fair if bikes can be loud and cars cant, and vice verca of course.

    In saying that, there are plenty more obnoxiously loud cars around that bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    So loud bikes are ok but not loud cars? There would be those in that group who think their car exhausts sound 'horn' and bike exhausts sound like shit.
    ive never met a bike yet that stays running due to the turbo, and ive not yet had a tension headache from any bike exhaust. i dont mind em if they shut off, but when you are standing next to it, pumping in a full tank of gas, by the time you finish, your head feels likes its gonna explode. i try not to serve those vehicles until they have shut down. same goes for loud stereos.
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    The noise thing that pisses me off is all the signs for "Heavy Vehicles, No Engine Breaking" in residential areas. Many modern big rigs have transmission breaking systems that use the engine breaking and a hydraulic retarder in the transmission to help slow the truck down, these systems work really well as a form of braking.

    My point is that a truck should be allowed to allowed to use all forms of braking installed. I certinally don't want me or any of my mates hit if they step onto the road and a vehicle can't stop in time because they are only allowed to use some of their brakes.

    Trucks are generally only on the highways passing through residential areas anyway, the people who bought houses beside the highways should not be allowed to complain about noise since the highway was probably there before the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyG View Post
    The noise thing that pisses me off is all the signs for "Heavy Vehicles, No Engine Breaking" in residential areas. Many modern big rigs have transmission breaking systems that use the engine breaking and a hydraulic retarder in the transmission to help slow the truck down, these systems work really well as a form of braking.

    My point is that a truck should be allowed to allowed to use all forms of braking installed. I certinally don't want me or any of my mates hit if they step onto the road and a vehicle can't stop in time because they are only allowed to use some of their brakes.

    Surely if it's the difference between running someone over or using your engine brakes no one is going to get up in arms over a little extra noise? To me that's just plain common sense.

    Cop - "Don't worry mate, you may have killed little Sally but at least you didn't disturb the peace. Ooooh boy, then you would've been in trouble.' I don't think so.

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    It's just Jabob's Brakes they don't want used in residential areas.....but they can't do that as it's advertising eh? They could use some complicated jargon about exhaust valve acuated decompression devices,but everyone calls them an exhaust brake.A true exhaust brake makes hardly any noise...just transfers it from the exhaust to the inlet.People bought those houses possibly in the days when road freight was much less,and Jacob Brakes not as common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyG View Post
    Trucks are generally only on the highways passing through residential areas anyway, the people who bought houses beside the highways should not be allowed to complain about noise since the highway was probably there before the house.
    Not down here sunshine - open road, (no residential area) then into the 70kph residential area and very shortly after into the 50kph area. (residential)

    The signs are a REQUEST and have the word 'please' included on them. (Well, at least so down here).

    And in an emergency I doubt anybody would criticise the use of a noisy 'exhaust brake'.
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    I can recall seeing signs asking trucks to keep the noise down outside small downs at least 30 years ago. And old signs then. It's nothing new.
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    Same here Harry

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry the Barstard View Post
    i find wof people don't realy care anyway in reguards to bikes. Has anyone watched them do a WOF check. I do more in monthly maintainance. Most dont have a clue but dont want to admit it. I have only been to VTNZ's for wofs though and i know the guys at my local dont know squat abput bikes, Bless em.
    I take my harley to the local VTNZ here in West Auckland and the testing staff, 90% of whom are of indian extraction, definitely struggle with bike testing.

    During the last WOF test I was asked to brake test by applying both brakes after a 5 meter run up to prove stopping power over the runners, and fucking near dropped it ( I'm still getting over a major accident where my right leg was crushed, and wasn't ready for this shit).

    No matter what they say in future I am never doing that particular test for them again. If they drop a cheque for full value ($55k) on me they can do the bloody test themselves.

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    fuck 'em! i get my WOF at the bike shop they have selective deafness.

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    Yea most modern trucks these days can use there extra braking systems as they are practically silent. I was driving a 03 model truck and would go through the residential areas with it on and they have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyG View Post
    The noise thing that pisses me off is all the signs for "Heavy Vehicles, No Engine Breaking" in residential areas. Many modern big rigs have transmission breaking systems that use the engine breaking and a hydraulic retarder in the transmission to help slow the truck down, these systems work really well as a form of braking.

    My point is that a truck should be allowed to allowed to use all forms of braking installed. I certinally don't want me or any of my mates hit if they step onto the road and a vehicle can't stop in time because they are only allowed to use some of their brakes.

    Trucks are generally only on the highways passing through residential areas anyway, the people who bought houses beside the highways should not be allowed to complain about noise since the highway was probably there before the house.
    Too damn right about the exhaust brakes. Local councils banning them is a Yank/Kiwi thing. For example most of Europe says that their use is mandatory on down grades and no-one at all bans them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Just checked the noise label on my 750, yep....102dB with the stock muffler
    HAHAHAH heard recently of a cop that pulled up a bike and took a reading (poking the unit into the exhaust and getting a too high reading, biker told cop to place unit in same position on his cop car ..... got a too high reading as well heheheh

    hhhmmmmmm took my Virago to wof just recently, got told (again) my bike is marginal, wind it out could earn me a pink sticker hehe (I have Harley strait pipes on it) but sheesh ... wouldnt be the same with standard pipes on her
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    I got nailed on my last WOF for noisy mufflers. Simple fix; head home, switch mufflers, get WOF, repeat step one. Then, just last weekend in Rotorua, a member of Sulphur City MC told me my bike was "pretty quiet". It's all too grey that area and open to interpretation and the 'bad hair day' factor.

    The bottom line (without a decibel meter) is this; if your bike's noise level is dubuious and the tester doesn't like your paint job, you're going to fail. Plain and simple.

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    This whole Db rule really pisses me off, just because a few little teenage cage drivers keep riping around town at night in there mum and dads front wheel drive piece of crap with no springs and the mufflers cut off its gone and stuffed it for every one (e.g custom bike builders, and hot rodders.)
    When's every one going to stop being so p.c, and just take those cars off em' and put them in a paddock and set fire to em. Don't get to many bikers hooning around town at night doing the laps with the loud exhaust just for the hell of it.
    Thats my 5 cents worth anyway.

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