The AWESOME new 2007 R1

[Paulus]

I talked to Yamaha about the bike prices and they said that they believe there bikes are among the better quality Japanese Motorcycles and are priced accordingly. They also hold there value a lot better than other brands.
The new 07 R1 is a brand new bike with some really hi tech features and it only increased $400 over last years model.

So we get better quality versions of Yamahas than the US, UK and Australia? This is the same old rubbish I got from my local dealer last year. We're being ripped off and you the dealers need to make Yamaha NZ aware that the internet opens peoples eyes to this NZ only price differential.

The reason the second hand prices are higher is because the new prices are higher. You are paying $3000 for this feature and they don't still hold a $3000 differential the next year. I wonder how many would rather have the bike more reasonably priced than a slightly higher resale value? I know I would.

[kiwifruit]

162hp is pretty damn awesome.

where does it say that?

[The Pastor]

one of the youtube vids, the MCN one. It was a dyno bhp figure not a bullshit yammy hax figure too.

[justsomeguy]

So we get better quality versions of Yamahas than the US, UK and Australia? This is the same old rubbish I got from my local dealer last year. We're being ripped off and you the dealers need to make Yamaha NZ aware that the internet opens peoples eyes to this NZ only price differential.

The reason the second hand prices are higher is because the new prices are higher. You are paying $3000 for this feature and they don't still hold a $3000 differential the next year. I wonder how many would rather have the bike more reasonably priced than a slightly higher resale value? I know I would.

I understand where you're coming from - if I had the 19.5K which is what most new thou's sell for.

I'd just go up to a yammi dealer and say - here's my money - that's the bike I want.

Take it or let me go buy a Gixxer/Fireblade/Ninja.

I seriously don't think you'd get turned down. - Or have you been turned down??

[kiwifruit]

one of the youtube vids, the MCN one. It was a dyno bhp figure not a bullshit yammy hax figure too.

still pretty lame eh

[The Pastor]

still pretty lame eh

I know the gixxxers haxed up 160 hp from suki, but in reaility its more like 130.

[kiwifruit]

lol.... yeeeep

[SixPackBack]

I know the gixxxers haxed up 160 hp from suki, but in reaility its more like 130.

What colour is the sky in your world son?

[onearmedbandit]

I talked to Yamaha about the bike prices and they said that they believe there bikes are among the better quality Japanese Motorcycles and are priced accordingly.

And you believed them? Wow.

[Smorg]

speeew it looks like a FAZER give me the old 98-02 any day of the week best looking bikes ever in my humble opinion

[pritch]

Marketing dept aside - it would be nice if a previous R1 rider could say how good the bike is - and if is a real threat to the gixxer?

Threat to the what?

I know the mags all masturbate furiously over the GSXR but that's silly. The real world performance gaps between the various bikes are so infinitesimally small that 99.99 % of riders could never exploit them. If your name isn't Biaggi or Rossi forget it!

Interesting to note though, that in spite of all the rave reviews in the Brit bike mags about how the GSXR is lighter, more powerful, faster, etc. When it comes to plonking down the dosh the punters get discerning.

Apparently they like having the finish last more than five minutes, and so I was recently pleased to read that despite all the crap in the press, the clear winner biggest selling 1000 sprotbike in the UK is...


The CBR1000RR

[justsomeguy]

Threat to the what?

It's a threat to me in my view. I've owned 3 kawasaki's and one honda - so my next bike will be a zooki or yaa-man, meanin R1 04-06 or K5/K6 Gix thou. Ain't buying new. Thought of a gix 750 - but it costs the same as a thou - and I'll take my chances.

Ridden an 05 R1 and a new GSXR1000 demo.

The 05 seems big, long and not that nimble - but no big deal. AND IT'S THE BEST LOOKING BIKE EVERRRRR IN MY OPINION.

The gixxer feels like a 600 and is very, very easy for a "newbie to thous" to ride, and it has that slipper clutch again, newbie friendly.

It is a brilliant bike. A few of my friends who've been riding just a little bit less than I've been breating also agree.

The ZX10..... well I don't like the current model - am too scared of the 04/05 model and it's the same price as a K6 gixxer so yeah depending on what I find i may get an R1 or gix thou, dont give a rats left ventricle what the journo's say - it's my money and all i care for is how much the bike makes me go - f'ck yea - so far the gix thou is tops in that field.

Will be taking the new 07 CBR for a test ride as soon as they run their demos in - maybe next weekend...... life's great

[SixPackBack]

Threat to the what?

I know the mags all masturbate furiously over the GSXR but that's silly. The real world performance gaps between the various bikes are so infinitesimally small that 99.99 % of riders could never exploit them. If your name isn't Biaggi or Rossi forget it!

Interesting to note though, that in spite of all the rave reviews in the Brit bike mags about how the GSXR is lighter, more powerful, faster, etc. When it comes to plonking down the dosh the punters get discerning.

Apparently they like having the finish last more than five minutes, and so I was recently pleased to read that despite all the crap in the press, the clear winner biggest selling 1000 sprotbike in the UK is...


The CBR1000RR

The Pom's are gayer than the Greek's have ever been, thats the reason for the Hondas popularity.

[pritch]

The Pom's are gayer than the Greek's have ever been, thats the reason for the Hondas popularity.

Hi HST errrr SPB? I do like a bit of intelligent debate. Shame really

[MD]

one of the youtube vids, the MCN one. It was a dyno bhp figure not a bullshit yammy hax figure too.

Probably right at the rear wheel. Remember a couple of years ago all the jap manufacturers were claiming 150 to 160 hp (at the crank) but the mags tested rear wheel at 140 to 145hp. So the new Yammy claims to about 180 probably does equate to 162 at the wheel. My seat of the pants dynmometer on the new R1 gave a rating of..bloody hell! So yeah it's got more mumbo than my 2004 CBR1000RR had 2 years ago (and so it should). For me the R1 still can't justify $3,300 over say the CBR or ZX10. I don't know what the latest GSXR sells for?
Lets give credit where credit is due though. The Gixer is still the fastest bike..at depreciating. Who am I to talk though. I lose money each year changing bikes and changing brands - no regrets, life's short live it now, ride what turns you on. To hell with the economics and theory on why brand X is best for you.
I judge all my bikes now on my smile-o-meter. No other measurement counts for yip.