Non-instant fines

[NinjaNanna]

I don't lie - ever!!!

And I ALWAYS let the speeder read the speed on the radar - and that's even if I locked-on a speed slower than they were originally doing when I first saw them. .

What I really don't understand is why don't these "high tech" devices automatically lock the highest speed, from what you are saying it sounds like you have to manually lock the read out.

I would have thought it common sense that these should be designed to "hold" the highest reading (like a simple set of bathroom scales) and then require a reset button to be pressed after the offense has been ticketed?

What's the story Scumdog, seriously not trying to stir shit or anything, I just find it strange.

Cheers

NN

[scumdog]

What I really don't understand is why don't these "high tech" devices automatically lock the highest speed, from what you are saying it sounds like you have to manually lock the read out.

I would have thought it common sense that these should be designed to "hold" the highest reading (like a simple set of bathroom scales) and then require a reset button to be pressed after the offense has been ticketed?

What's the story Scumdog, seriously not trying to stir shit or anything, I just find it strange.

Cheers

NN

Probably 'cos its cheaper to have a manual model??

Seriously, I don't know why not, it sounds pretty damn god idea to me, maybe just because there's no demand?.

[davereid]

The reason is that the radar is doppler shift - it can record all sorts of nonsense if operated badly. The operator is supposed to confirm by looking at the target, and listening to the radar tone that the unit is working correctly and not full of intermodulation products, multiple targets, targets in different directions etc etc before pushing the button. (ie "clear tone")

[Blackflagged]

Cops will give you notice if they are pissed at you. Sometimes its just a bad day thing.
Judges on the other hand are a bunch of cocks.
The guy that was charged with hitting me, dangerous driving causing harm - judge only gave him 4 month license desqual. $400 fine - because he only hit a motorcyclist!? Cops were as pissed as i was.

Same thing a lawyer ran me over(she was charged) ,put me in hospital,(not to bad) fined less than the fine for diving along the open road ,on a sunny day,40k over.Whats with that!

[The Pastor]

Same thing a lawyer ran me over(she was charged) ,put me in hospital,(not to bad) fined less than the fine for diving along the open road ,on a sunny day,40k over.Whats with that!

enjoyment tax mate, its how our judges get payed.

[TL 1000]

What happened with you in this case. did you get let off for this fine? i just got a very similar situation. is it worth trying to get off it?

Just last week ...

$400 for 36km over limit

Weird little bit of road, its in a 50k zone but has a passing lane, which only then becomes a 70 about 100m up the road.

But the thing is, cop didnt get a lock on his radar so he couldnt show me the alleged speed, but he said " i dont have to", and wrote out ticket anyway.

A letter has been written anyway so will see what happens

that was a roadside issue sorry :|

[tigertim20]

It does seem to me that it is time that NZ law was amended to require visual proof of an alleged excessive speed.

There are too many anecdotal cases where cops are alleged to have "made up" grossly excessive speeds for them all to be urban myth.

I can't see why the radar units could not record a date/time stamp and the speed they clocked at that time and print it out.

In the short term, a simple digital camera focused on the radar unit would work fine.

i see no reason why that couldnt be done, i know for a fact many police vehicles carry cameras in them, having been one the early people on the scene of an incident (not necessarily traffic related) and the cops have grabbed a digital camera out of the car and taken photos straight away for evidence

I don't know what happened to him, whether he blamed the calibration or not using correctly of just lying... its the only time its ever happened to me...

but I do know around the same time a few of my biker friends in the area were getting exesive speeding tickets when they weren't speeding... and there was nothing they could do. It was just my luck that the cop put a speed that my bike was incapable of achieving.

I also remember being pulled over, I wasn't speeding... and I though frack what now... but all the cop wanted to do was look at the bike... that f@#$ed me off more than getting a speeding ticket.

Most cops are honest but I do know of a couple that aren't (including a couple in Alex or at least one) where they catch a speeder and not reset the radar... and use that speed for several vehicles whether they were or not. How can you proove otherwise.

Now as I said above most cops are honest (that be you Tom ) but there is a few that aren't... there are also a few bikers that should loose there license too, and deserve what they get...

yep, there certainly are a few out there who are just assholes, but hey, there are assholes on bikes too.

my biggest fine was recent, after getting a new bike. he locked on at around half the speed id been doing, and the ticket was $400.

he was actualy a really decent guy, wasnt a wanker about it, was just doing his job, and he was friendly about it

[DEATH_INC.]

What happened with you in this case. did you get let off for this fine? i just got a very similar situation. is it worth trying to get off it?

Probably not, I've been done like this....the cops word was good enough for the judge.
Good luck.

[rastuscat]

In hindsight I should have just pleaded guilty and paid my fine to the rapists oops I mean cops.

Guess what. The cops don't get the fine money. It goes to the gubbermint, not the Police.

Having said that - I still maintain I WAS NOT GUILTY haha.

In NZ you are innocent until proven guilty. So, like it or not, you are guilty.

So there.

[miloking]

Yeah, he doesn't have to show you. It's a nice to do, but not required by law.

And thats why i refuse to stop for you fuckers.... because half of the tickets written by piggies are just "your bike sounded like your were going fast" so here is your ticket for "insert 3 digit value here" km/h!!!!

[miloking]

But, but, the tickets would cost even more then...

Guess what...iam actualy happy to pay DOUBLE for non made up speed tickets...
If only there was some other way to make cops not a bunch of lying cunts...like make them swear an oath or something...
(or just make sure they dont hire guys with tiny dick syndrome would probably work also...)

[miloking]

So you were innocent then?

Hope the next one doing 61 k over the limit doesn't run over your kid then...

Give it a rest will ya? Most people here actualy dont buy that "speed kills" bull...and 61km is hardly a thing to worry about...so next time you try to guilt trip us with the "what about poor little Timmy running after his ball...." nonsense at least pick someone doing 100+km or something....

[insomnia01]

I had a little play with a busa in Aug got tagged by a cop HAD to pull over as there was no where to run, " do you know how fast you where going ? " 245km+ " Sorry offiicer I could'nt see my speedo cause I was tucked in behind my screen " did'nt help when 2 YES 2 friggin cars one after another stopped to tell him I was going way, way to fast . I started to think i'm walking home which was going to be a little bit difficult seeing as I was 400+ km from home, but he actually was a decent bloke, put the start date for the mandatory 28day loss of license down as the following day which would allow me to get home at least... when the prosecution letter came through the post I wrote a letter stating my side knowing to well that it may not help at all but had to give it go seeing as I pleaded guilty from the start 3 months down the track I received the bad news just last week 50 demerit points & a $880 fine for exceeding the posted speed of 100km by 86km !! all in all it should have been worse as the 186km was with me braking as much as I could but when I seen the cherries come on I thought F K !!! So all though the $$$$ sucks & I now only have a 30points left ( lost 20 2 months earlier ) I'm glad to take the punishment with xmas & summer just around the corner & still being able to ride

[Jantar]

Guess what. The cops don't get the fine money. It goes to the gubbermint, not the Police.
.....

OK, so where do the cops get their funding from?

[Toaster]

And thats why i refuse to stop for you fuckers.... because half of the tickets written by piggies are just "your bike sounded like your were going fast" so here is your ticket for "insert 3 digit value here" km/h!!!!

Firstly, the majority of cops are good honest people.

Secondly, if you speed, you are breaking the law and have no credibility.

Thirdly, I AM NOT A COP. But I appreciate being called a "fucker" none the less - makes me all warm and fuzzy inside...

Take it easy out there fella - the world is not your enemy. We would hate to one day say at your hospital bed, grave or jail cell that "I told you so......."