Do nakeds slow you down?

[kiwifruit]

that gsx1400 pulls pretty hard from 220, so i hear

just looked at the spec of the 06 naked 1400

105BHP/91lb torque

20HP less than my old XJR (dynoed before and after) , much the same torque

much the same profile

yamaha's speedo? looks like it was more honest mate

[idleidolidyll]

MikeL

that XJR of yours can be liberated very easily if it's like the 1300. Yamaha used tapered rubber manifolds to reduce flow to the head but the head itself had larger diameter ports. When the std rubber manifolds were replaced with those from an FJ1200, they matched perfectly and the flow area increased by over 30%.
Now that's all well and good but there's no point in allowing more air through the manifold if it just doesn't have a chance to enter the airbox. Dave Cole and I spent some time on the dyno putting a K&N filter in the bike and boring another entry hole on the other side of the airbox. That hole was about 60% of the diameter of the original and to that we added bellmouths both sides (we also had to seal it against the filter inside). Lastly of course we rejetted so it wouldn't seize. Result was an increase from 95BHP to 127 or 129 (gave away the chart to new owner).

Interestingly, aftermarket mufflers, although free flowing and loud, gave just 1 BHP.

Yes, suspension was modified too

[Jimmy B]

III thats one stonkin XJR mate.

My X11 has 130ish rwhp and 84Ftlbs. Reputed to manage genuine 256kph. My best effort has been breifly north of 210kph and it was pulling like a train. Not too sure when it would suffocate but thats way too much for me anyhoo. Most Nakids are all about heaps of grunt from 3000rpm and impressive performance from 0-100mph....long live the nakid bike

[Beemer]

It does when it's only a Goose! If you (heaven forbid) got up to say 140kph, you KNOW you are going that fast as the buffeting can be quite fierce. But at normal road speeds I don't find it a lot different from bikes with fairings. I do get a slightly cooler chest but that's about all.

[beyond]

[QUOTE=idleidolidyll;983599
my old XJR1300SP was liberated and made 129HP with nearly 90lb torque. It has about the same frontal aspect as your zooky but no way in hell it would do 260 even tucked in. Tops maybe 230/240 but frankly, after 200 it was just plain silly

an oldy but still a truism: to go twice as fast, you need 4x the horsepower on the same bike.

No mate, i'm not calling you a liar, I'm calling the suzuki speedo a liar..........[/QUOTE]


Had the spped of 260kmh verified now on more than two occassion and riding with others on different bikes, unless all the speedos are out on different brands as well.
The GSX1400 turns out 106bhp and 126nm or 96lb's torque. Guys in the UK where there are heaps of 14's get around 250-260kmh out of them tops.
Mines nicely loosened up after a good running in. My K2 would do 253kmh flat out and that was verified on many occassions and would do no more than 230kmh two up.

[Back Fire]

I imagine being forced to keep to 100-110 on a GSX-R or R1 would be not only tedious but very difficult to maintain

hmmmm... I find it quite the opposite... cruising along at 110 on my K6 is bloody comfy, easy and rather relaxing

[Babelfish]

hmmmm... I find it quite the opposite... cruising along at 110 on my K6 is bloody comfy, easy and rather relaxing

How about when the front wheel's down?

[Back Fire]

How about when the front wheel's down?

is there any other way?....

[laRIKin]

Question(s): Is riding a naked bike an effective deterrent to speeding? (when compared to riding a faired bike).
Does riding them slow you down?

Thoughts??

With out reading all the post's, I will comment.

We that SDU and I bought a pair of Moto Guzzi V11 Sports for that reason.

The short answer is yes.

Not a lot but it does as you are aware of the speed you are doing.
And that will depend on what speed you use to do.

The best thing is that you do not get the buffering that you get off a fairing blade.
We can (on a closed road of course) ride at 120K's and are happy doing that speed and that would be our normal speed now.

But if a push comes to a shove I can cruise for a while at 140k's. (on a private track of course)

So for me, it's a big ticket and I keep my licence.
For SDU she likes riding with out a Fairing as it takes the weight off she wrists, as she is short and any fairing blade is as big as a barn door for her and she hides behind it with out to much trouble at all.
So gets no relief off her wrists at any speed.

[pritch]

Well, anything over 140 or 150 gets tiring after a while on a naked, from the wind blast.

Yup. It doesn't matter how much power you've got the wind pressure sets the limit. All of which makes me wonder what Yamaha (FZ1?) and BMW (1200S?) think they are doing making uber horse power bikes that nobody can use. Nakeds best use beefy torque not peak horsepower.

[BarBender]

Yes.
No screens, no fairings, no bodywork = far less tickets and much more 'immersive' fun at lower speeds.

I find riding the naked very absorbing - but a different buzz to the type of buzz I get on a sports or faired bike.
For me the naked is 'fun' or as is as DMNTD described ...There's something about that upright position the really does it for me especially in mid corner hanging it out laughing my tits off!. The faired bikes I find are a bit more of a 'lid on-visor down lets get serious' buzz.

The hornet I ride has wider motox style bars, which make it real easy to flick through tight corners.

I find nakeds easier to flick through traffic...making for a much faster ride in built up areas. Maybe I can see more??

LOL...yep I test rode a KTM Super Duke and I believe they have two speeds, ye ha and parked Was going to say they're too much fun but that's just being stupid Similar thing applies re the vtwin and inline4 buzz. I actually ride faster on a twin. I'm just very fortunate that I have a Lady that shares my "illness" so we have one of each to satisfy

Yeah I think if I were to get a naked - it would be a twin or a triple. There's something cool and exhilirating about riding upright and hearing the pipes gurgle underneath you.

If you like speed and like riding fast, then a naked is not going to slow you down at all.

I found I slowed on the highways but picked the pace up in traffic and through the twisties on a naked. Perhaps the different positions on the bike are the difference for me. The naked encouraging more visibility and therefore confidence and fun seeking attitude in built up areas....whereas the faired bikes I ride faster on the highway/track/strip due to less air resistance and more serious riding mindset etc...

Which gives the bigger buzz? Now there's a question.

[DMNTD:Me]

Which gives the bigger buzz? Now there's a question.

Very open question there big fulla but...ouch...ouch...ouch...naked, well the right naked does.
Queue KTM Super Duke

[BarBender]

Very open question there big fulla but...ouch...ouch...ouch...naked, well the right naked does.
Queue KTM Super Duke

Yeah...Riding bikes should be fun...
...so I personally aint arguing with ya!

Tuono
SuperDuke
Speed Triple

[Big Dave]

Buell Lightning Super TT
City - X
Cb900 Hornet
etc etc etc

[Skunk]

Well, they slow me down. But I'm slow anyway.

ZX6R made me cruise at 120-140. The ZRX and Z1000 keep me closer to legal. That doesn't mean I don't go faster ever - just not all the time.