You really sound the rebel wanting more laws to keep us safe from ourselfs.
You really sound the rebel wanting more laws to keep us safe from ourselfs.
Sever
Now and forever
you're just another lost soul about to be mine again
see her, you'll never free her
you must surrender it all
And give life to me again
Disturbed - Inside the Fire
Yup, all post crash - there ain't such a beast as an "accident" generally.
And NOBODY ever did anything that could lead to a crash - and admitted it pre-crash eh?
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Unfortunately natural selection can have unwanted consequences for others, hence sometimes we need to be protected from ourselves - pre-crash policing maybe?
Just a matter of targeting the policing appropriately which is what the govt would like to think it is doing with guidance from LTNZ crash statistics monitoring. I know people (say it with a mob accent) whos job it is to analyse the crash database looking for patterns and trends. Problem is I think the govts own agenda sometimes gets in the way of the stats.
Cheers R
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
Sever
Now and forever
you're just another lost soul about to be mine again
see her, you'll never free her
you must surrender it all
And give life to me again
Disturbed - Inside the Fire
If the new laws are based on sound evidence that shows their value as a carnage prevention tool and don't result in an undue loss of freedom I'm all for them.
I saw a documentary recently that followed a multi-engined passenger jet as it was skillfully landed after losing all hydraulics using only engine power. It turns out that a similar incident that resulted in complete loss of the aircraft led to the creation of a computer that can fly the plane with engines only but the FAA deemed it too expensive to be worth installing due to the low likelihood of this type of incident. You have to weigh up the costs and benefits of any new law before imposing it on everybody.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
This is basic physics.
Newton's first law: An object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon by an external and unbalanced force.
Speed alone = constant motion.
Speed + opposing, unbalanced force (another vehicle perhaps) = sudden stop.
Therefore, speed alone cannot cause an accident. QED
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
And what are the odds of that one? Given any governments past record do you really expect them to react to sound evidence or simply public reaction?
Here is an example for you. When it rains, car crashes happen quite often here (infact whenever we lose power at work during a rain storm the first thought it someone has hit a power pole) Ofcourse the blame is put on speed and not driving to the slippery conditions. Ignoring the speed lets take a look at the conditions. Water is slippery, when it's in a puddle it's worse. Why is it then that very few roads in this country have any sort of drainage to them?
Doesn't take a lot of effort to put a slight slope to the roads from the centre outwards so that water will run off the road to the side instead of just sitting there creating all sorts of hazards. OFcourse you hve to have somewhere for the water to go else it will just flood the road again if there is enough of it. But that wht sewers are for isn't it? I'm certain when I flush the toilet it goes somewhere. No reason why road drainage can't be joined into that.
But ofcourse instead of looking into that what does the government and roading NZ or whatever they call themselfs do? Air annoying tax money wasting comercials.
Sever
Now and forever
you're just another lost soul about to be mine again
see her, you'll never free her
you must surrender it all
And give life to me again
Disturbed - Inside the Fire
No, I don't expect it but there is always hope.
You CAN have speed without a sudden stop. I do this every time I drive to work. The two combine to form an accident on extremely rare occasions when you consider how many kays are driven every day.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
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