Politics assignment

[Winston001]

The problem with bringing these three concepts (socialism, liberalism and culturalism) into the realm of education both secular, free and compulsary is that each one is 'political' in their own right and as such now come under the umbrella of a 'subjective' interperatation. To marry these three concepts into a society, through education, that puts it's emphasise on 'competition' in all the various interpretations is one of the fundametal flaws of the society that we live in. It is essentially what is wrong with education today.

Interesting Skyryder but you lost me at this point. Say what??

[doc]

I know.

I feel remorse.

Just tell her there is a party at my place and you will get over it. sheesh askin us for advice must be studying political science

[Grub]

My question is.....

"One of the difficulties that arise on the question of education, when the state takes the matter up, is occasioned by the different opinions men hold as to central and local administration - how far central control should be enforced, and how far the system should be locally administered" Quote by Charles Bowen 24th July 1877 when introducing the Education Bill into the House of Representatives.

Discuss the political philosophies behind the different opinions referred to by Charles Bowen in the above quotation with reference to the 'free, secular, and compulsary' clause in the 1877 Education Act.

*That* is a question? Holy crap, I'm glad I'm out of academia! The original quotation isn't even english, doesn't make sense and has no relevance to furthering developmental ideas about education, it's problems and ways to fix it. Probably a million essays have been written referencing Bowen and what good have they done? The Education system is still crap because it is run by people who think that this kind of time-wasting is important ... while kids continue to leave school unable to read.

[Macktheknife]

*That* is a question? Holy crap, I'm glad I'm out of academia! The original quotation isn't even english, doesn't make sense and has no relevance to furthering developmental ideas about education, it's problems and ways to fix it. Probably a million essays have been written referencing Bowen and what good have they done? The Education system is still crap because it is run by people who think that this kind of time-wasting is important ... while kids continue to leave school unable to read.

Geez Grub, don't go adding common sense into the mix as well, that will really screw things up! lol

[crack]

Fucking hell, girl, you really are as dumb as you appear to be.

[Edit: Seriously. Asking people on an internet biker forum to help you write an answer to an essay assignment is really, really sad.]

Fish I think you are very mean, are you as educated as you portray:

Although she is asking a Question, the way she is asking it, is by way of conversational debate.

I certainly do not see it as asking for help to write an assignment.

[Beemer]

*That* is a question? Holy crap, I'm glad I'm out of academia! The original quotation isn't even English, doesn't make sense and has no relevance to furthering developmental ideas about education, it's problems and ways to fix it. Probably a million essays have been written referencing Bowen and what good have they done? The Education system is still crap because it is run by people who think that this kind of time-wasting is important ... while kids continue to leave school unable to read.

You're not wrong there, Grub! I am doing journalism studies papers at present and some of the essay questions have been very abstruse. For all the papers where there is a practical content, dealing with real examples rather than writing essays, I have scored an A. For all the papers that have essay-based assignments - well, let's just say I haven't scored an A for them!

[jrandom]

Fish I think you are very mean

You're right. I'm a total cunt.

are you as educated as you portray

I don't 'portray' nothing, homeboy. You saying I come across all smart-like, like one-a these book-larnin' types? Well, that's yer own assumption.

To be perfectly honest, I'm just sexually frustrated, and the insults are my way of lashing out at Buffy because she's hot and I don't get to fuck her.

[Ms Piggy]

Thanks in advance

Hey Buffy - dunno if these books will help but, a few social policy text books I found helpful are:

'Society and Politics, New Zealand Social Policy' (2004) by Grant Duncan.

'New Zealand Government and Politics' (2003) 3rd edition, Edited by Raymond Miller - I think there may have been an edition since this though.

'Social Policy in Aotearoa New Zealand, a Critical Introduction' (2002), 2nd edition by Christine Cheyne, Mike O'Briend and Michael Belgrave.

These were all text books I've used for my social policy papers, I'm doing a social work degree but they're not slanted toward social work.

Plan well, hope this helps CSL

[BuFfY]

Thanks heaps for the book advice, one thing we need is atleast 10 books on our reference page! So I am sure I can slot something in from them!!

Thanks everyone for their help, as I wade through the topic I may have a few things I need clarification on (seen as my lecturer has no idea how to ANSWER a question!!). It is going to be an awesome weekend!!

[BuFfY]

One thing I am stuck on is where a culturalist would sit? I understand what culturalism is but I am not sure where they fit on the scale of things. Whether they were happy with state having the power, or if they wanted local schools etc to have the power.
I am finding that there isn't too much reference to culturalism, perhaps it was only something considered later? Seen as now we look at diversity and try to be inclusive???

[Ixion]

Wouldn't find anything of that back then. Outside, perhaps, the ICS, the Heaven Born.

When you are a member of the most civilised nation on earth, the greatest Empire the world has ever seen, the prophets of technology and progress, and know for a most assured fact that the wogs begin at Calais, you have no place for culturism.


WHEN Britain first at Heaven's command
Arose from out the azure main,
This was the charter of her land,
And guardian angels sung the strain:
Rule, Britannia! Britannia rules the waves! 5
Britons never shall be slaves!

...
To thee belongs the rural reign;
Thy cities shall with commerce shine; 20
All thine shall be the subject main,
And every shore it circles thine!

The Muses, still with Freedom found,
Shall to thy happy coast repair;
Blest Isle, with matchless beauty crown'd 25
And manly hearts to guard the fair:—
Rule, Britannia! Britannia rules the waves!
Britons never shall be slaves!

Some of the Heaven Born read texts in strange idolatrous tongues, and were not so sure. But the ICS communed only with the Gods not with men.