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    License restriction exemption FAQ

    Ok, so after a couple of threads... (just a few) I have decided to create the FAQ as promised. What I need are any questions that I have not covered off. Feedback is welcome. Please keep in mind this is a draft, and I still need to cover off things like 500cc instead of 250cc or open cc exemption.

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    What is an Exemption? Do they exist?
    Yes, exemptions do exist. An exemption is authorised by the LTSA, and exempts you from a specific restriction on your license, or, changes the restriction to something more flexible. ie, if you need to ride after 10pm on a restricted, you may be allowed to ride until 11.30pm.

    How do I get one?
    You have to apply to the LTSA for the exemption. They are considered on a case-by-case basis, with no set rules. All applications are sent down to Chrischurch for consideration.

    What can I get an exemption for?
    You may apply for an exemption on any restriction on your learners or restricted license. This includes the cc limit of 250cc, hours you may ride, being able to carry pillions, etc.

    How long does this process take?
    You should receive a reply within 3 weeks, and it can be as fast as a week.

    I hold a learner's motorcycle license, can I get one?
    It is unlikely to be successful, but exemptions can be granted in exceptional cases. Your chance of success is much greater for restrictions on your restricted license, as you should have been riding longer.

    Where do I get the application form?
    You need to fill in form DL4, and this may be obtained from any AA centre, and there may be other places as well, such as places that are able to process driver licensing.

    How much does an application cost?
    An application costs $22.20, and there is no guarantee of success, and no refund is given if you are unsuccessful in your application.

    Do I have to meet certain criteria to get an exemption?
    There are no specific guidelines that you have to meet, eg, be over 6' tall. Each case is considered individually, on its own merits.

    What happens if I am unsuccessful?
    You will receive a letter informing you that your application has been declined. All your current restrictions will remain in place.

    What happens if I am successful?
    You will receive a letter informing you of your success. This letter must be kept, as it outlines which rules and subsections you are exempt from, or what conditions have been changed. Another letter will arrive, with a new plastic license. Written on the back under Conditions will be something like "as per letter rider carries". This letter MUST be kept on you at all times. If you are stopped by the police without it, you have no proof you have different restrictions, and can be fined for any breaches of normal license conditions. It is highly recommended to have some copies made, signed by a JP, and use the copies, while keeping the original in a safe place.

    What sort of bike can I get with a capacity exemption?
    This depends from case to case. If you are a learner, your restriction is more harsh, and will most likely require you to specify a bike, and your exemption will then be tailored to suit. Besides specific bikes (see the related question), they can raise the cc restrict, to a higher cc limit, or remove the limit. In these cases, you are free to ride any bike as long as it meets the cc limit you have.

    They are also wary of certain names of bikes, so if you have to list a bike, don't be surprised if bikes such as a ZX aren't allowed. Interestingly enough, it would seem the ZX may be more known than the GSXR. Ultimately, they are judging safety, so don't try to give them the idea you want to go faster.

    What if they want to know what bike I will have?
    This most likely means you're a learner. You have applied for an exemption, they have granted it, but have not sent it. They will contact you, asking for the bike. At this point, it is best to have a shortlist (or make one) of what bikes you would like. They will deny/approve each bike individually. Once they approve a model of bike they will send your exemption for that bike. It is specifically for that model, and nothing else.

    What should I do when I get my exemption?
    Make some photocopies of it, get a JP to verify the copies, store the original in a safe place, and make sure you have a copy on you at all times. You could put one in each jacket, maybe on the bike (remember, if you ride anything else, you will need a copy) or anywhere else you fancy. Over time (water assists) the paper falls to bits.

    Extra Tips
    • Read the front of the form, it tells you the process LTSA goes through, in deciding whether you should be allowed an exemption. It states you must be NO LESS SAFE without this restriction, or an altered one.
    • Provide as much proof or evidence as possible, to support any claims you might make. This could include photos of yourself on bikes, to prove your size, or a letter from your employer, saying that your work only finishes at 11pm, and you have no alternative transport.

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    Please keep this thread firmly on topic. This is only for purposes of creating the FAQ.
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    I had only had my learners for just over two months when i appied and was accepted to ride my 400cc motorcycle. So i dont think the fact you are on your learners makes much of a difference.

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    My first post here so big HI to everyone,

    Been sifting through the KB forums for a while and found some good info on this topic thanks, thought i'd add my experience for others info, hope this is the appropriate location:

    I was granted an exemption to ride my SV650S on a learners, the exemption was purely based on my height (196cm) and it was pretty straight forward, sent in the form, week later a very nice lady called lesley rang me and said I just need to email some photos of me on a 250 to prove I really am a giant, and the details and number plate of the bike i want to ride, so i took some photos on my mates CBR250RR, sent them in and got the letter back a week later, note that i can only ride this bike, I have had 8 years of cage driving with 2 tickets, (115km/h & 61km/h), reasonably clean compared to some i figure, not sure how much of a factor this was but she did say if i get any tickets (cage or bike) my exemption will be reconsidered.

    Hope this is useful for someone considering a similar application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *caution* View Post
    My first post here so big HI to everyone,

    a very nice lady called lesley rang me and said I just need to email some photos of me on a 250 to prove I really am a giant, and the details and number plate of the bike i want to ride.
    Anyone know how this will work if you need to test ride a couple of bikes to make sure you get the right one for you?

    Chris

    P.S Really helpful FAQ BTW

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    About 2002 I had an exemption on my restricted as I finished work at 10pm. The exemption allowed me to travel the shortest route from my work to home up till 12pm.

    The other thing thats not mentioned above is my exemption expired on the first day I could go for my Full. (which then got messy cause they changed the restricted time from 9 to 12 months and I had a defined date for my exemption, but thats another story)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 422 View Post
    Anyone know how this will work if you need to test ride a couple of bikes to make sure you get the right one for you?

    Chris

    P.S Really helpful FAQ BTW
    Yup, after i sent in application they asked me for details of the bike. I then wrote another letter saying i didn't know what bike, needed to test ride, couldn't afford both or to sell 250 without having an exemption. Asked for a cc limit instead.

    Was then granted anything up to 700cc which i managed to talk up to 800cc as i wanted a 750 Ended up with a 650 anyway but hey.

    So yea, ask them nicely and they might let you.

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    thanks for the FAQ i had know idear you could get a biger bike on you restricted if u get an exemption. i got a keeway 250 and want to do more tripes home (christchurch to newplymouth) so a 250 is ringing its ass out all the way home and i go to gas up every 150k so im thinking a 400zxr would be nice, i will apply in a week or to and let u know how it goes
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    Thought of a few more questions to add in... MT, feel free to add them where you see fit.

    >> edit: these have been moved to the original post

    If anyone has a general question about exemptions, please ask, and I'll (or someone else) will do their best to answer. Please try to keep to general questions, otherwise specifics will end up making the FAQ too long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    A lot of knowledge!!

    Could you make a short list (or a long one) of things NOT to do if you want an exemption??

    Thanks for the time put in to this!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    Could you make a short list (or a long one) of things NOT to do if you want an exemption??
    mmm I never wanted to turn the FAQ into a cheat sheet, as I don't want the exemption abused, which would ruin it for a lot of people that have a genuine need.

    My #1 tip. Don't say: I have been riding for 2 months, and my 250 is not nearly fast enough to race people and outrun the cops. Can I please get a 1 litre bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    First post here on the KB forum. I have a question about exemptions. I have had my learners for about 2months now. I'm only 20, but have just finished doing up my 1951 BSA B31. Its a 350cc, but as its performance is no where near that of a modern 350. You wouldn't want to cruise much faster than 80kmph, and it would probably top out at just over 100. Does anyone think I'd be able to make a case to get a exemption to use my bike? I'd be happy to stick with all the other learner licence restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel dlye View Post
    First post here on the KB forum. I have a question about exemptions. I have had my learners for about 2months now. I'm only 20, but have just finished doing up my 1951 BSA B31. Its a 350cc, but as its performance is no where near that of a modern 350. You wouldn't want to cruise much faster than 80kmph, and it would probably top out at just over 100. Does anyone think I'd be able to make a case to get a exemption to use my bike? I'd be happy to stick with all the other learner licence restrictions.
    I wouldnt even bother getting an exemption. First, why would a cop pull over an old bike like that ( if its reg and wof'd ) and second, if you did get pulled over, if you explained that it was only 10hp ( lol )to them im sure they would let you off. Dont hold me to that, but im sure the average cop would understand. In my case when i didnt have an exemption i got pulled over on my learners on my 400cc bike at 1am in the morning and the cop let me off.

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    don't tell them you have a 650 and have been riding it illegally on your learners, coz they will reject your application instantly.

    Wiki this thread ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mark247 View Post
    I wouldnt even bother getting an exemption. First, why would a cop pull over an old bike like that ( if its reg and wof'd ) and second, if you did get pulled over, if you explained that it was only 10hp ( lol )to them im sure they would let you off. Dont hold me to that, but im sure the average cop would understand. In my case when i didnt have an exemption i got pulled over on my learners on my 400cc bike at 1am in the morning and the cop let me off.
    Its a little hard to claim your insurance on a 250 when your not covered though huh?

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