License restriction exemption FAQ

[h20boy]

I have verbally been given an exemption to get a KLR650 on my learners, but need to actually buy a bike so they can list the rego number on the letter. I want to make sure I can get insurance before I buy the bike though - AMI and AA have both said no based on my zero riding experience and age (23 years). Where do you go for insurance in this situation?

The KLR650 is on the list of approved bikes for exemption...for insurance, kiwibike.co.nz are excellent and if you tell them you have an exemption it will be no problem.

[davyike]

NP's - Im with Proctor (sp?)

The only Proctor Insurances I can find are in Ohio and Michigan... I can find a Protecta Insurance, sound familiar? http://www.protecta.co.nz/Story?Acti...&Story_id=1313

Cheers for the tips!

[Tank]

The only Proctor Insurances I can find are in Ohio and Michigan... I can find a Protecta Insurance, sound familiar? http://www.protecta.co.nz/Story?Acti...&Story_id=1313

Cheers for the tips!

Yep them the fellas

[The Pastor]

Just wanting an update here, my workmate is looking for an expemtion on his 250 bike (he too tall) - i think somone told me there was a specific list of bikes that can be used.

Is this the case and is the list published?

thanks

rm

[Gremlin]

Relevant thread with pdf of list in first post

I don't believe the list is the new law per se, ie, the 250cc rule is still in place. But it appears they are now referencing a list as to which 250cc+ motorcycles are suitable (and likely the future list when/if the 250cc limit is removed).

Thread above contains the pdf list on the first post.

[Conquiztador]

Just wanting an update here, my workmate is looking for an expemtion on his 250 bike (he too tall) - i think somone told me there was a specific list of bikes that can be used.

Is this the case and is the list published?

thanks

rm

What is he planning to ride?

[PirateJafa]

RM: I have a copy of the list - what's he looking at?

[<Rhino>]

I applied for an exemption at the end of last year. Got turned down coz the bike I stated was not on the list, was an 800cc cruiser. They said they would only give me an exemtion for bikes on the list! however in the very same letter they also said that they would give me an exemption to ride my 800cc cruiser for my restricted and full licence tests - I don't have an 800cc cruiser so I guess they just assumed I would have/get one anyway!

I havn't - I still ride the ho-bag

[hedcase07]

Just wanting an update here, my workmate is looking for an expemtion on his 250 bike (he too tall) - i think somone told me there was a specific list of bikes that can be used.

Is this the case and is the list published?

thanks

rm

Hi peeps, i have recently applied for an exemption to the 250cc rule as i am finding it difficult to find a 250 that i can ride comfortably due to my height. (193cm) I am eligable to sit my full licence on 16th april 09 and would like to get experience (legally as not to get any extensions)before winter hits.
Long story short my application was declined due to the fact that i could have sat my full on the 16th jan had i sat a defensive driving or street talk course.
I am failing to make a connection between being to tall to ride a 250cc comfortably therefor safely imop and completing a course that is aimed at 4 wheeled vehicles.

So i ask you in your opinion how tall is to tall, and how have other people gone about this?
Should i try again??

[greminn]

Hi peeps, i have recently applied for an exemption to the 250cc rule as i am finding it difficult to find a 250 that i can ride comfortably due to my height. (193cm) I am eligable to sit my full licence on 16th april 09 and would like to get experience (legally as not to get any extensions)before winter hits.
Long story short my application was declined due to the fact that i could have sat my full on the 16th jan had i sat a defensive driving or street talk course.
I am failing to make a connection between being to tall to ride a 250cc comfortably therefor safely imop and completing a course that is aimed at 4 wheeled vehicles.

So i ask you in your opinion how tall is to tall, and how have other people gone about this?
Should i try again??

I applied for a exemption to the 70km per hour limit on my learners (using it for work between cities) and got bumped thru to restrictied. They say this process takes 20 working days, but with questions back and forth it took about 35 working days... I would just save your money and wait dude!

EDIT: Sorry - didnt read your post fully! and gave you an answer to something that you didnt ask!

[greminn]

I am failing to make a connection between being to tall to ride a 250cc comfortably therefor safely imop and completing a course that is aimed at 4 wheeled vehicles.

And i agree with this. In fact its downright DUMB!

[hedcase07]

I applied for a exemption to the 70km per hour limit on my learners (using it for work between cities) and got bumped thru to restrictied. They say this process takes 20 working days, but with questions back and forth it took about 35 working days... I would just save your money and wait dude!

EDIT: Sorry - didnt read your post fully! and gave you an answer to something that you didnt ask!

hey thanks for the reply. Bearing in mind i have already applied for the exemption i dont think it costs to argue or have it re evaluated as even if i wait i will still be lacking in experience coming into winter and will still have to find a 250cc to hire or borrow which my problem to begin with.

[CookMySock]

I did a defensive driving course, and by the time I had finished jumping through their hoops it knocked one whole month off my restricted license. Gasp!

If it wasn't for all the teenage hotties on the course, I would have fallen asleep. NO I didn't get a finger in any of them.

I found the whole exemption process to be rather demoralising. Yeah I am glad to have gone from learners to restricted to full on my 650, but it was not very funny at all, and I am relieved to be shod of it.

I think the exemptions team need a boot in the ring actually.

1.) Exemption expired when I was ELIGIBLE to sit my restricted. Pray tell - how will I sit my restricted with no exemption? Exemption gets extended two weeks.

2.) See (1) above, before the extention arrives, I go for a ride and get processed for breach of license conditions coz my exemption has expired.

3.) I miss one day on the DDC and have to pick up the course next month. Exemption expires - extension please? "nah get bent you could have had your full now." Whatever, I ride anyway, in breach of license terms.

4.) See (3) above - so I ride and get stopped at a random check point.. The cop asks if I am legal, so I pull out ALL my paperwork and fess up to the whole thing, and he lets me off and sends me on my way.

So seriously, guys, did I have a damn exemption or did I not? Way too much paperwork. Way too much stress. Not amused.

And to be frank, giving exemptions to newbies to ride big, fast bikes is dangerous.


Steve

[Gremlin]

I am failing to make a connection between being to tall to ride a 250cc comfortably therefor safely imop and completing a course that is aimed at 4 wheeled vehicles.

As long as you go into the course with an open mind, you do actually pick up a few things, as the course is more about your mentality behind the wheel/bars than actual driving/riding on the road. The thought processes and awareness are universal to the vehicle you are piloting.

Assuming you're on your restricted (and when applying for an exemption, the odds of success are higher on the restricted, due to your experience) and they have denied it, unless you re-apply, and the circumstances have changed, I don't see any chance for you to succeed.

Applying for an exemption shouldn't be seen as a cool... I can skip some stuff. As the form clearly states, you need to prove you would be no less safe (and essentially, you need to prove that you would be safer with the exemption).

[greminn]

As long as you go into the course with an open mind, you do actually pick up a few things, as the course is more about your mentality behind the wheel/bars than actual driving/riding on the road. The thought processes and awareness are universal to the vehicle you are piloting.

Assuming you're on your restricted (and when applying for an exemption, the odds of success are higher on the restricted, due to your experience) and they have denied it, unless you re-apply, and the circumstances have changed, I don't see any chance for you to succeed.

Applying for an exemption shouldn't be seen as a cool... I can skip some stuff. As the form clearly states, you need to prove you would be no less safe (and essentially, you need to prove that you would be safer with the exemption).

When i applied for the 70km speed restriction exemption 1 month into my learners (got learners mid Dec08), it was turned down becuase:

1) I had a company car
2) I did not have enough experience

I then rang up stating that my circumstances had changed with the company car being not avaiable for 100% of my use. They agreed to relook at the same application (insted of having to re-apply).... I had to get further letters from the 3 people that written one before for me (stating that in their opinon i was capable enough to ride at 100km/h) asking them to list details and specifics about what riding they had done with me, what conditions i had ridden in etc etc. It was quite a process, but worth it from my point of view as now im only two months from my full.

Starting the DDC next week.

PS: Ive done over 7000kms on my bike since mid dec.