New bike ideas

[Mole_C]

Im thinking about selling my zxr and getting a dual purpose bike. I've only just got my restricted so has to be a 250. Want to use it for my normal pointles road trips and be able to stick some gravel in them. Also something i can take down to the beach and learn to do wheelies on Also something that doesn't require too much maintenance.

Had a look around here but the only thing i could find was the XR250 so any more ideas would be good.

BTW im 6ft 3inches and 85ish kg so something big would be good

Cheers

[NordieBoy]

dt230?
ttr230?
dr250?

[Mole_C]

dt230?
ttr230?
dr250?

Any advantages or disadvantages of each? I havn't really thought about dual purpose bikes much until now so really have no idea whats good or what to look for in the bikes.

[far queue]

Get hold of the March '07 Kiwi Rider, page 107, for the test on the TT-R250. It sounds pretty good. TTR230 and TTR250 are both available but are different.

[Ruralman]

My advice would be buy something cheap until you get your full and then get a 400+ cc bike and spend more on that one. Any of the bikes mentioned above would work - but if its a temporary purchase until you can move up you need to keep in mind what will hold its value and sell easiest - the XR 250 is pretty hard to beat in this regard.
Of the bikes mentioned the DT230 has the most poke by a wide margin but its a 2 stroke which isn't everyone's cup of tea. 'XF650' now has one and he haunts this page so hopefully he'll comment. If you're up to it, it it will probably provide the most exciting ride for your $. The TTr will have better off road suspension than the DT but at considerably more $

[Mole_C]

How do these look?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91914657
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=92107018

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91428657

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=92639693

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=93166902

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=58299004

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=77117953

[Ruralman]

How do these look?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91914657
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=92107018

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91428657

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=92639693

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=93166902

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=58299004

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=77117953

They look like an awful lot of links - why don't you pick a preferred one or two.

[xwhatsit]

Cool! Neat to see you've (according to Ixion http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...72&postcount=4) either grown a dick or become comfortable with it's existing size, and you're ditching the scary hose-sprouting banshee thing

I know nothing about off-road bikes, but that Suzuki Djebel thing looks very cool. If not, get an XR250, then I can steal your carburettor next time I see you parked at uni.

The 250cc single is a beautiful thing. It'll suit you better anyway -- it's unexpected to see such polite, well-mannered young men riding those heathen 250 straight fours

[Mole_C]

They look like an awful lot of links - why don't you pick a preferred one or two.

Well i don't know whats good or whats not so was trying to get a bit of info on all the ones that i can find

But if i must choose a few then

A 2004 Honda XR250
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91914657

2003 SUZUKI DR250RX DJEBE
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=93166902

Hoebag RX250
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91428657

[cooneyr]

The Dejebel has awsome range out of the 17l tank if you can put up with the massive bloody headlight. I had one to get my learners on. It would pull around 110 ok with me (6'1" and 110kg). Geared kinda high though - not great for really low speed (10kph) trail riding but good for what I would call adventure riding.

Been riding with guys on TTR250's. Not great range, good for low speed trail riding but pretty well taped at 90-95kph.

Dont know squat about XR250

Obviously the gearing on all of these can be modified slightly but will likely still be a compromise. I would say that the Dejebel is a better longer distance bike than the TTR and possibly the XR (not sure on this one though) and not so great at slow speed trail riding.

Only other thing is I found the Dejebel a bit crampt in the standing position but I'm tall and it was with standard bars (after market bars can help heaps).

Cheers R

[CM2005]

if you're a kwakka man, what about a KLR250, or a D-Tracker Supermotard. they're cool. rolling stoppies anyone?

[Ruralman]

Well i don't know whats good or whats not so was trying to get a bit of info on all the ones that i can find

But if i must choose a few then

A 2004 Honda XR250
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91914657

2003 SUZUKI DR250RX DJEBE
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=93166902

Hoebag RX250
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=91428657

OK for what its worth my first comments still stand - spend as little as possible until you are able to get a 400+.
Cooneyr sums up the Djerbel well - the XR is one of the newer Tornado versions which I think are made in Sth America. Both bikes are very definitely dual purpose and are pretty heavy and soft for serious trail rides - people do use them on some of the organised rides I have done but they're not a patch on a "proper" XR or DRZ. For your described use for gravel roads and a few beach rides they'd both be fine - if you want to wheelie it then I'm afraid you'll be disappointed unless you put a lot of work in and know how to do it - neither of these will wheelie on demand unless your going quite slow (probably 1st gear and maybe second at a stretch) back off then give it heaps while throwing all your weight back on the bars. If you're expecting to be able to do power wheelies then forget it, and even the slow wheel raises needed to get over obstacles will take some work.
If you want exciting wheelie type action then the DT230 is probably the best bet in this market at this sort of money - if you've got heaps to spend then a new WR250 would also do it, and can be street legal, but you're into a quite high maintenance category if you go there.

[Ruralman]

Im thinking about selling my zxr and getting a dual purpose bike. I've only just got my restricted so has to be a 250. Want to use it for my normal pointles road trips and be able to stick some gravel in them. Also something i can take down to the beach and learn to do wheelies on Also something that doesn't require too much maintenance.

Had a look around here but the only thing i could find was the XR250 so any more ideas would be good.

BTW im 6ft 3inches and 85ish kg so something big would be good

Cheers

BTW if you're 6ft3in and only weigh 85kg you need to eat more

[cooneyr]

BTW if you're 6ft3in and only weigh 85kg you need to eat more

Na - then you have to start mucking with suspension or put up with an under spring bike like me! Just chop the legs of at the knees - get further weight reduction too!

Cheers R

[Mole_C]

Thanks for the feedback guys. The DT230 sounds good but cant find any for sale

Anyone know anyhting about the hyosung?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=93332161

Theres a couple of KLR250's on TM and pretty cheap. What are these babies like? Look horrible in the green thou

And i eat plenty, a good 4 meals a day Don't know where it goes thou.