Bikes are expensive in NZ!

[emaN]

the exemption to gst/duty is only if you have owned and used the bike overseas for over 12 months and are moving here permanently and it does not include kiwis returning home

almost 100% correct Troll...

we owned ours for over 12mths, lived in UK for over 2yrs, and were returning Kiwis = no GST.

(can't sell it on for 2yrs tho'..otherwise we get pinged!)

[Troll]

seems the nz govt send out conflicting info

I was looking at returning back to NZ and they wanted GST on my bikes which I'd had over 10 years

and this was straight out of the info on their website????

[Troll]

Concessionary entry for motor vehicles is available to immigrants and New Zealand residents returning after an absence overseas of 21 months or more, with the intention to take up or resume permanent residence (residence lasting indefinitely).

thats the latest wording they seem to keep changing it

[emaN]

Must admit, I went to Customs with cash in hand to pay the tax, having read their site info.

Was told the above then and there at the counter...this was Feb 05.

Apparently there was a law change in Jan 05 making it poss...

[Sniper]

I wonder if Rizza did actually get to NZ as his last post was in 2003

He last signed in then too

Last Activity: 26th June 2003 08:42

[raster]

Might bee still there watching us under another alias forgetting the password of his first login.:spudguita

[smokeyging]

[QUOTE=rizza]Hello everybody,

I'm from the USA and I'm thinking about coming over to New Zealand to work for a year. I have two motorcycles in the US so of course I'd want to get one in NZ (it's an addiction). So I was looking at bikes listed on bikepoint.co.nz and they are expensive.

As an example, I've seen many Suzuki TL1000S in California for around $4000US which is about ($6800 NZ). It seems like there arent really that many bikes on bikepoint that are even in that price range. And certainly not a 1000 V-twin. Can anybody explain why this is? Smaller market maybe? I thought that with the currency conversion that somehow I would be able to get a bike for cheaper in NZ than in the US. I guess not.

Back in the Early to mid 1970s didn’t the government tax the living shit on bikes?
From what I remember there was a shitload of bikes pranging, especially those 900 Kawasaki’s, if I remember the first 7 that came into the country all the riders were killed, usually on the first weekend that they got the bike? From what I remember they came flying into a corner, lent like fuck but couldn’t stand them back up again?. And after the government put this big tax on the bikes they just about all disappeared. Well, they did down this end of the country anyway.

[toybox99615]

I just got back from a tour in NZ. Shipped my Harley over for the trip. I'll say having your own bike is the best way to go. I didn't find the cost prohibitive. But finding a shipper was a major pain in the tail bone. Anyone interested in knowing who I used to ship the bike and who to avoid can send me a private email.

The best way is to consider the bike being there for a short time and not brining it there permanently. If it is temporary you can get a Carnet de Passage to cover the GST. A Carnet is a bond that says they pay the GST if you don't bring the bike out of the country. Cost $ 300 more or less. If you say the bike is going to be there permanently then it will cost you 12.5% of the bikes value (what ever value you can negotiate with customs) plus 12.5%of the freight cost for GST (goods and service tax.) The NZ customs allows you to temporarily bring the bike in for 1 year. But that can be extended easily enough. You just have to be up front with customs or you'll end up in GST hell.

Once you get the bike to NZ you can easily get it over to Australia and back for some other great riding. That also helps with the 1 year in NZ stuff: into NZ then out to OZ and return makes it two seperate tempory visits for the bike. Timelines for visits start when the bike arives in NZ and end when it departs for OZ. Then start again when the bike return to NZ.

[Nick from the nick]

As an import into NZ from the UK i can't think why you think your bikes are expensive, Take my fav bike a Honda Blackbird brand new in the UK £9995 which with the exchange rate is NZ$25400 and even older ones are expensive before come to NZ i had a 97 Blackbird that cost £4000 so again thats NZ$10000. Been looking for the same bike here and been finding them at NZ$9000 for a 2000 model.

[marty]

hey nick - check the thread date before posting

[awayatc]

Hello everybody,

I'm from the USA and I'm thinking about coming over to New Zealand to work for a year. I have two motorcycles in the US so of course I'd want to get one in NZ (it's an addiction). So I was looking at bikes listed on bikepoint.co.nz and they are expensive.


As an example, I've seen many Suzuki TL1000S in California for around $4000US which is about ($6800 NZ). It seems like there arent really that many bikes on bikepoint that are even in that price range. And certainly not a 1000 V-twin. Can anybody explain why this is? Smaller market maybe? I thought that with the currency conversion that somehow I would be able to get a bike for cheaper in NZ than in the US. I guess not.

Hi Rizza, I used to live in California, and incomes here are way lower, and interest is way higher, so toys are way more expensive, thus more valuable, and better looked after....so you don't want to lose as much on them when you sell or upgrade! ( can't afford to!)

Another thing that is interesting to me is that many bikes for sale in NZ have over 50000 kms.

What's the point of spending all that hard earned cash if you are not gonna use it?

That amount on a bike in the US is VERY rare. Congratulations to all of you for actually riding your bikes and not just riding through the city hoping people look at you.

Here you got to hope they do see you!


I also like how you guys have the license requirements where you have to start on a small bike. In the US many people start on 1000cc bikes and end up killing themselves.

Here you gotta start on a small bike before you can kill yourself, or ask an incompetent cardriver to give you a hand....

Well thanks for reading my comments. Sorry if they dont make too much sense.

No worries mate, Have a nice day

[Nick from the nick]

hey nick - check the thread date before posting

Just in case you didn't notice i'm new to this site will check harder next time.
Didn't realize the threads were dated
Oh and cheers for calling me a thread dredger !

[Dino]

Have to agree with the prices of second hand bikes in this country, they seem very high compared to the actual sale price of a brand new bike, not the listed new price but the actual price you can negotiate it down to.
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[JustMe]

I'm just hunting for a bike, maybe something on and off road? like a DR, TTR, XT or so. Can anyone tell me how far the price can be negotiated down (i.e. new bike from dealer). And is it worth going for a dual purpose or not? Couldn't find anything reasonable priced on trademe and prices for sec hand from dealers are

[imdying]

Can anyone tell me how far the price can be negotiated down (i.e. new bike from dealer).

Depends on the dealer, but there appears to be better luck to be had getting extras thrown in than getting the price down. You can never have too many helmets/jackets/pannier bags/cleaning supplies/maintenance supples, so might be worth thinking about