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Oddly enough - an Uncle of mine (old school Carpenter) told me this leaky building thing was gunna happen a decade before it did - same as a roofing specialist I knew....
Their attitude was / is... Its a bloody house, it's a long box with a pitched roof with decent eaves to protect the tops of the walls - theres a reason traditional houses look like they do.....
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There's lots of people coming out now and saying that. Wish they'd been a bit more vocal back then. My place was designed by an award winning architect and developed by a recognized developer. I knew jack about houses then so I paid over $1000 to a large firm for an engineers report and it came up tops.Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
I've already done a lot of work on it and just got an estimate from a QS well into 3 figures to complete it. Of course, everyone is ducking for cover. Meanwhile in Canada, their Government has come to the party. I wonder if Helen still thinks it's a media beat up.
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Yeah.....weren't we all.........
Ever tried talking to a brick wall?.....Oh...of course......you're "talking" to the ACC and Fucked housing Tribunal!
Well into 3 figures - like 6-700 bucks?
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
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They were very vocal but because an aging old fashioned carpenter and a beat up roofie were not fashionable or featured in 'outrageous building and lifestyles' - no one listened. Both turned down jobs they didn't approve of and would have nothing to do with the whole plaster over polystyrene fad either - again - they were slagged off as just old fashioned doom sayers and the big profits were in the faster methods....
I purchased a house my uncle had added an upper level to. His taste in decoration was not mine but sweet jesus it was well built and paint and paper is cheap compared to what you are going through. (incidentally - I feel for you - what a bloody shambles)
That was very much in my mind when we designed abd built our house - I fired the designer when he tried to get us to build a plaster chocolate box house - he was well miffed but didn't read our instructions...
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it doesnt rain inside my house and it was built in 1911 has a pitched roof and soffits, if the top of the walls are protected there is no way water will get in
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Yip, although local and central Government played a critical role in this fuck up and unfortunately the tax payers will have to fit the bill. Sure it'll be a drawn out process but I'll basically get a new house out of it and it won't cost me too much. Sure it's a pain in the arse but I really feel for the people who don't have money, can't borrow any and can't live in their houses. Meanwhile the Government sits on it's fat arse.
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Yes, I know that now and while houses built around that time don't leak, they are still shit boxes. Let's face it, kiwi's can't build houses and if they knew how to, they would be too expensive. Weather board, a piece of paper, some 4x2 and some gib. WTF?
It doesn't rain inside my house either. If you saw my house, inside and out, you'd never know it has a problem.
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shit box i dont think so 9 ft stud, 2 meter wide hall way, 4 verry large bedrooms, living area, kitchen , dining 28 meters long by 6 meters wide 2 bathrooms, 3 toilets, large sunroom, verandah, ,,,,,,not what i would call a shitbox but you north island types may have higher standards
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Not so. Refer to their Web site and application form
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From what I can see on the Certified Builders site you are only required to trade qualified.
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Yeah - I meet some people like that....
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well im a member of a similar trade assn and i also had a neighbour who worked for bro repairs fixing flat tyres who sold his house and bought a McKoullogh kitset and built it himself next thing i know he is a builder and a couple of years later he is a member of the master bldrs assn and advertising as a Registered Master Bldr, so either they have changed their critera or your wrong also i have been in the building industry since 1975 . you have to have done a apprentiship and be a qualified carpenter to be a member of Certified Builders
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It wasn't a personal attack on your home jimjim. I was refering to the general build quality of NZ homes.
Edit: You've got a dining room 28 x 6 metres? You could fit the population of Dunedin in there.
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not quite dining kitchen lounge all open plan but with interior french doors to close off the dining kitchen from lounge. Kiwi houses are built with local materials which is wood etc, in Dunedin there are lots of older brick houses with plastered brick interior walls but there was a local brick industry back in the old days. These houses are solid but cold but once warm stay warm and the cost of building them would stop 99% of people being able to afford to build. I feel a lot of the leaking problem sits squarly at the door of designers etc and the trend of trying to reproduce a medeteranian villa in a damp humid climate
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Yup - you have to have your piece of paper. Still no guarantee though. One of the first jobs I failed was by a Certified builder - and it wasn't just a regulatory failure - he had done some basic building mistakes that you would not really expect from a qualified builder, professing to be better than the norm.
Works well if its done properly. Use the available materials to hand - until it got sabotaged along the way. Some of the worst built houses I've seen (apart from the current crop), were built in the mid 20's - 30's. Most of those shit box little bungalows over Pt Chev way, now selling for $3/4 m.
The fact they are still standing after 75-80 yrs, is not a reflection on the builders, more a reflection on the materials used.
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
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