My brother binned it on my baby -Rant and a few questions.

[Gareth123]

And as far as i'm concerned he will always be my brother, no matter how many impersonal letters i get. BUT he needs to remember that if he tries to dump shit on me, i'm gonna do my best to try and deal with him but in the end, if he's too unreasonable, just won't compromise and keeps putting me into a tighter squeeze, I'm gonna go and dump a bigger pile of shit on him. Its karma. Always remember guys, what goes around comes around!

[Gareth123]

Hey sniper would love to know where i've been mislead. The lady at the lawyers was most helpful

[Sniper]

Hey sniper would love to know where i've been mislead. The lady at the lawyers was most helpful

As she should be.

But you are still liable for all damages caused to your brothers bike even when you were not under a contractual agreement.

BUT he needs to remember that if he tries to dump shit on me, i'm gonna do my best to try and deal with him but in the end, if he's too unreasonable, just won't compromise and keeps putting me into a tighter squeeze, I'm gonna go and dump a bigger pile of shit on him. Its karma. Always remember guys, what goes around comes around!

You are both young and I think are dealing with this in the wrong frame of mind. You guys need a mediator, maybe a parent or a close friend of BOTH of you?

[The Stranger:Me]

Weather or not your obligation is legal it is certainly moral to return the bike in at least the condition you recieved it.

As to saying that the repair need not be done by a mechanic or someone in the trade even, how would that fly with you if your insurer tried that shit on you?

What do you mean partly to blame? Did you hit the car? Sounds like you simply freaked out and panicked. Not your brothers fault you did that, probably not even the cars fault you went for the wrong brake.

Accept responsibility, put it right and yes, he has a right to expect it repaired by a professional, just as you would if you had a machine repaired by an insurer.

[mstriumph]

........... i offered him the use of my new $5500 bike for 7 days while i was away on holiday. ...........

and, if he had accepted the offer, borrowed your bike and crashed it, YOU would expect that he get it fixed for you

...... because that's fair

- so i really don't see where you are coming from with the "i'm under no obligation" shite - of course you are .......... morally if not legally [and i'm doubtful about the advice you were given, too]

- do you REALLY want us to believe you are doing the 'running around' grudgingly and not because it's you that bent it, you that should fix it because THAT'S THE FAIR THING TO DO?

C'mon, fella - i know that brothers squabble but -------- sheeeesh - this is daft!!

[Spuds1234]

Gees I never expected this thread to open such a can of worms.

I will say this though, Gareth and I get along just fine. At the time we were discussing things last night, I was angry. I feel I had every right to be. I made that letter impersonal so that every second line didnt really re-inforce the fact that he crashed my bike. I was trying not to rub salt into the wound so to speak.

Also I wrote the letter because it is easier to get your point across uninterrupted and clearly (far better than trying to get it all into a text or two). There can be no mistakes, and you have it down on paper what you said.

Personally I would have loved to borrow his bike for a week but going into winter and riding a strange bike on wet cold roads isnt exactly smart. That and I cant afford to fix a bike that expensive at the moment.

Anyway it seems things will all get sorted now. Although Im starting to think that next time if something like this happens Im just going to say "Fuck it, let the insurance deal with it" Its to much hassle to fuck around like this with people fixing things on the cheap because they cant man up to the fact that they fucked up (this is aimed at the person that pulled out in front of Gareth).

And I have learned something very useful throughout this whole ordeal. A warrant doesnt matter if your not at fault. Thats extremely good information to know.

As to the people saying "Sort your shit out between the two of you, get a mediator. Have a beer" that doesn't need doing. Its all cool now. Take this piece of advice to heart people:

Dont try and sort anything major out through text messaging. Its a waste of time. A series of 2 minute phone calls throughout the day will always work better than constant txting where the tone of words can me mis-understood and the wrong impressions given.

And yes we do get along fine. And that comment did hit close to home.

I wasn't expecting my brother to pay for anything. He wouldn't have been found at fault, so it would be up to the other party. Hence why I wanted the bike fixed properly by a mechanic where if the indicator fell off a week later I could go back to them and say "Dude, my bikes still fucked. You did a shit job"

And for those that said that morally it was up to him to fix the bike, I thank you. That is exactly what I thought should happen. There need to be more people that think like that in the world. I just wanted my bike fixed and couldn't understand why I should have to run around to fix it when I didnt break it. Unfortunatly there will always be people out there who will always look for ways out of this kind of thing. But what goes around comes around.

Im sure I probably missed a few points that were made in the previous posts but such is life.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions guys.

[marty]

it's a big call to say that the car was at fault. if a kid ran out chasing a ball, and the same lay-down happened, who's fault would it be?

the car pulling it out may have been a FACTOR, but i struggle with your absolving of fault

[Spuds1234]

Different kettle of fish I think Marty.

I was going to write down what I would do and try to make myself seem like a good person, but ultimatly it just came down to self presivation. I would do what I could to avoid the kid. But if I couldnt help it and would definatly hit him no matter what I could do I would do whats best for myself.