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**What?** · 24th April 2007, 06:56

What sort of fuse holder is it? If it is a glass-cased fuse that sits inside a plastic tube, just go and buy a whole new holder - they come with wire hanging out each end, and are as cheap as chips.
If you need to join wires, then soldering together and cover with heat-shrink tube is the best, but crimped bullet connectors are fine.

**NotaGoth** · 24th April 2007, 11:38

Originally Posted by What?

What sort of fuse holder is it? If it is a glass-cased fuse that sits inside a plastic tube, just go and buy a whole new holder - they come with wire hanging out each end, and are as cheap as chips.
If you need to join wires, then soldering together and cover with heat-shrink tube is the best, but crimped bullet connectors are fine.

The fuse is a glass one with the little metal ends, each end sits in a little metal thing, that the wire is crimped into. This then sits inside a plastic tube that clips shut. Hope that helps, I'm too new to this.

I did think about just buying a new fuse holder, which I might do specially if the wires are already hanging out each end.. Makes life a bit easier

**Ixion** · 24th April 2007, 11:43

I'd buy a new holder. From Supercheap or Repco. A couple of bucks. And they have a wire at each end , and all the tricky fuse connector and spring stuff is already done.

An interesting commentary on the difficulties of troubleshooting over the 'net. The problem would have been immediately obvious to an experienced person who SAW it "Hey, where's the liddle spring gorn ?" ). But noone over the 'net would cry out "Hey I bet the liddle spring is missing from the fuse holder doohickey". The problem is that the person reporting the fault often does not report something missing/broken etc, simply because they don't know it is supposed to be there.

(Incidentally not all fuse holders have a liddle spring. Just to complicate things. Sigh)

**NotaGoth** · 24th April 2007, 11:54

Originally Posted by Ixion

I'd buy a new holder. From Supercheap or Repco. A couple of bucks. And they have a wire at each end , and all the tricky fuse connector and spring stuff is already done.

An interesting commentary on the difficulties of troubleshooting over the 'net. The problem would have been immediately obvious to an experienced person who SAW it "Hey, where's the liddle spring gorn ?" ). But noone over the 'net would cry out "Hey I bet the liddle spring is missing from the fuse holder doohickey". The problem is that the person reporting the fault often does not report something missing/broken etc, simply because they don't know it is supposed to be there.

(Incidentally not all fuse holders have a liddle spring. Just to complicate things. Sigh)

How would I know wether its meant to have a spring or not?

I do realize because of my lack of experience that it makes things harder, I DO NOT notice what someone else may have by now. I realized that from day one. But its all a learning curve, and at the end of the day I will know what to look for in future. We all have to start somewhere don't we? and I find little bits of advice here and there are helpful because I don't end up being left feeling thick as shit when I go out there and just stare blankly at my bike.

I'm willing to learn, and at the end of the day I would like to know how to work on my own bike. If I wasn't keen I woulda just taken it to the shop

**Ixion** · 24th April 2007, 12:00

I did not mean to sound critical. Merely observing, that as you did not know that there SHOULD be a spring, you obviously would not report that it was missing.

Unfortunately there is no way to know whether there should be one or not. Some have them. Some do not . Sigh . Why can't they all be the same. You must approach it on the basis of "Hm. Sometimes these things have a liddle spring. This one doesn't have one. Should it, I wonder? Does it make sense without it ? ". As indeed, you did.

This is a fairly general aspect of diagnosis. "Does the way this is all arranged make SENSE" ? Is there something broken. or missing? Things do fall off bikes. And sometimes when things break, the broken bits will fall off or go and hide in dark corners. Sometimes it is hard to tell that the missing bit should ever have been there (as in the case of your spring. There was nothing to show that it ought to have been there. Just that , as you observed, the arrangment didn't make SENSE)

**mstriumph** · 24th April 2007, 12:02

Originally Posted by XxKiTtiExX

...............
Was having a fiddle around last night and having a really good look while we had enough light left.. Bingo!!! Negative wire has a cut/break in it all the way through the wires and its only holding together because of one tiny little bit of plastic.. So now we might actually be getting somewhere...

Though we had someone tell us that the cut/break wouldn't affect running of the bike or electrics.. So now I'm even more confused.. We shall see tonight..

same same the cb350cc honda --- she's had an obscure electrical fault that's been niggling for over 20 years ...... it's so intermittent that it's really difficult to track - and, unlike yours, the fix is so easy that it doesn't seem worth the bother
i've assumed it's gotta be wiring cause i bounce up and down on the seat a coupla times and it comes right .......

yeah - i know - soooooooooooooo scientific - but hell, it WORKS FOR ME!

**NotaGoth** · 24th April 2007, 12:12

Originally Posted by Ixion

I did not mean to sound critical. Merely observing, that as you did not know that there SHOULD be a spring, you obviously would not report that it was missing.

Unfortunately there is no way to know whether there should be one or not. Some have them. Some do not . Sigh . Why can't they all be the same. You must approach it on the basis of "Hm. Sometimes these things have a liddle spring. This one doesn't have one. Should it, I wonder? Does it make sense without it ? ". As indeed, you did.

This is a fairly general aspect of diagnosis. "Does the way this is all arranged make SENSE" ? Is there something broken. or missing? Things do fall off bikes. And sometimes when things break, the broken bits will fall off or go and hide in dark corners. Sometimes it is hard to tell that the missing bit should ever have been there (as in the case of your spring. There was nothing to show that it ought to have been there. Just that , as you observed, the arrangment didn't make SENSE)

Well just like my poke in the rib and pointing me toward the break in the wire. I was looking at the fuse and to me something didn't look right. Its gappy, I'd have thought that without the spring the the wires should be touching each end of the fuse, otherwise if you dont need that connnected why would you stick a spring in there in the first place?

Either way, my bikes not running right as we've found out.. Things got a bit better after the broken wire repair.. And after doing a make do job with the fuse shes starting better. But I won't know how its running til after I repair my broken clutch lever, and then I can actually take it for a ride to see what its doing.

I'll just get a new fuse holder, put it in, if shes still running like crap least I know I tried. (unless doing that would do more damage than good if its wrong)
Only way I could get more understanding is if I seen a fuse minus the springs so that I could compaire how they look.

*is trying google*

**Virago** · 24th April 2007, 12:37

Just a tip - some of the cheaper "bayonet" type in-line fuse holders (the ones that clip together like a light bulb in socket) can have short life expectancy, especially when sujected to vibration. I've found that the screw-together type are more reliable.

**NotaGoth** · 25th April 2007, 14:26

Friend that used to ride with my old man told me to replace my fuse anyway... Did that..

Went for a ride with CBobR and had no problems with my indicators etc etc..