TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Well said.......
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
BLACKSBURG, Virginia - The gunman who went on a deadly rampage at Virginia Tech university this week paused between shootings to mail a rambling account of grievances to NBC, the network said today.
In the latest bizarre twist, NBC said the package bore a stamp recording that it had been received at a Virginia post office at 9.01am local time on Monday, about an hour and 45 minutes after Cho had shot two people in a dormitory and shortly before he went on the rampage at Norris Hall where he killed a further 30 people.
NBC News President Steve Capus said on the NBC website the package included an 1,800-word manifesto-like statement which contained "vague references" including "things like 'this didn't have to happen'".
They reported it also included 23 Quicktime video files and 29 photographs.
"You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today," Cho says on one of the videos, according to NBC. "But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off."
The network turned over the material, which arrived earlier today, to the FBI. Virginia Police Superintendent Steve Flaherty said the development could be a "very critical component of this investigation."
The new details added to an already chilling portrait of Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old student from South Korea who massacred 32 people and then took his own life on Monday in the bloodiest shooting spree in modern US history.
The dispatch of the package to NBC was earlier confirmed by Flaherty, who told reporters: "Earlier today NBC News in New York received correspondence that we believe was from Cho."
The disclosure followed word from university police that Cho had been accused of stalking women students and was taken to a psychiatric hospital in 2005 because of worries he was suicidal.
Still grieving for the victims, students and teachers have described a sullen loner whose creative writings for his English literature degree were so laced with violence and venom that they alarmed some of those around him.
University Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said his officers confronted Cho in late 2005 after two women complained separately that he had harassed them in person, through phone calls and with instant messages.
"I'm not saying they were threats; I'm saying they were annoying," Flinchum told a news conference at the sprawling rural campus in southwestern Virginia.
After the second incident in December 2005, Cho's roommate warned police he might be suicidal, prompting them to issue a "temporary detention order" and send him to a nearby mental health facility for evaluation, Flinchum said.
Officials would not say how long Cho stayed at the facility, but roommates said he was gone for a couple of days. The women declined to file charges against Cho. Neither was among his victims on Monday, police said.
- REUTERS, NZHERALD STAFF
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
VA Tech Killer Cho Seung-Hui Manifesto (partial)
From AP news, VA Tech Killer Cho Seung-Hui mailed a video manifesto to NBC the day of the killings, which was recieved 2 days later.
The standard DA trigger pull on your average revolver is plenty safe enough for carry, although I imagine that most of them are less drop-safe than, say, Glocks, which have an integral drop safety that offsets the firing pin from the primer when the trigger isn't depressed.
Personally, I don't see external safeties as adding any real value - in fact I think they give a false sense of security. When it comes to firearms, if I can't see an open action and an empty chamber, then as far as I'm concerned, the weapon is ready to fire. There are far too many commercial rifles and pistols that fail drop tests with their external safeties still engaged.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
You, like the other wannabe gun-tooting cowboys on here, are deliberately missing the point. What if you couldn't just walk into the corner shop, slap down your credit card and buy a gun in the first place! Then the above scenario couldn't happen. The point that most of those with more than 2 brain cells to rub together are trying to discuss is the carnage caused by Americas love affair with guns. Their no questions asked gun sales has provided idiots who go off the rails with a purpose built tool to kill en masse. These nutters could have decided to buy 200 rounds of plastic paperclips to try and kill their class mates. But no, to date no mass killer has tried that approach. Why is that? because paperclips weren't designed to kill ,and kill efficiently as possible. Others on here have tried the stupid smokescreen argument that guns are no different than cars or motorbikes which can also kill. Piss off. Show me the historical and technical evidence that the internal combustion engine and it's spins offs - the car and motorbike were; invented; designed and built; and mass produced and improved over decades just for the specific purpose of killing other creatures.
Go buy a Toyoto Corrolla and try and sneak from classroom to glassroom killing 32 people over 2 hours with it. THAT'S THE POINT. Guns are small, easy to carry, conceal and ideal for killing so there should be some careful controls over who has access to them.
Happiness is a means of travel, not a destination
I noticed on tonights news that up to 200 people died today from a terrorist car bomb in Iraq but no one mentions that on KB cause they're just rags heads and nobody cares if they die. If it happened in Australia you would. Oh wait, that's a bad example.
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........![]()
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
But that would be illegal![]()
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
Not arguing that crims in NZ get guns and steal guns Scummy. My point is how much worse would it be if they could all just wander in to a shop, prove that they are over 21 and buy as many rifles & handguns as they feel like. No background check, no Police check. Would that make you feel safer everytime you were rushing to a domestic bust up knowing that every house probably has a pistol in it.
It sure would make it easier for crims to steal guns if every house had a few lying around. No system is foolproof but if I was a cop I'd rather work in NZ than the USA.
Happiness is a means of travel, not a destination
I read in the newspaper that the shooter was chinese.
Bloody typical! Yet another asian overachiever![]()
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