Tis a sad world when herbal medicine is illegal

[u4ea]

here is a link I came across.....seems things aren't too different in this country..I chose pot over voltaren when I had clots..http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/14/me...rss_topstories

[DMNTD:Me]

...I chose pot over voltaren...

As did I,it's just sad when the ignorant get all high and mighty claiming that they are saving humanity by introducing ridiculous bollix when all they are doing is making certain people suffer.
If ignorance was bless....they'd be orgasmic!

[Krusti]

It's a funny old world eh?

It's OK for me to be physically addicted to prescription, morhpine based painkillers. Been on them for 4 years. All legal.

Have a puff on something else......locked up criminal conviction!

[Drum]

Voltaren for the back, Mary Jane for the soul.

Legalize it!

[Nasty]

I never knew voltarin was used for clots .. I use to all the time for inflamations ... e.g. swellings ... migranes etc. Prefer that over pot anytime .. I maintain full control and know the dosage which is safest .. with pot ... so much can go wrong ... but what would I know

[The_Dover]

As did I,it's just sad when the ignorant get all high ....

if they all got high then maybe they'd change their tune bro!

[Str8 Jacket]

Voltaren for the back, Mary Jane for the soul.

Legalize it!

Amen bruva!

[Steam]

Ain't no money in Herbal and Traditional Medicine, so Big Pharma is out to ban a sector of the market that is cutting into their profits. If you examine the lobby groups behind the initiative, it's the big multinational pharmeceutical companies who are all for it. Capitalism sucks.

[DMNTD:Me]

I never knew voltarin was used for clots .. I use to all the time for inflamations ... e.g. swellings ... migranes etc. Prefer that over pot anytime .. I maintain full control and know the dosage which is safest .. with pot ... so much can go wrong ... but what would I know

I don't know your back ground so won't assume re what you would know.
What i do know from experience is that prolonged use of Voltaren(sp) DOES screw your stomach lining...then again,over use of pot can cause issues too,obviously
I chose to use a minimal amount of pot which worked well for me.
BTW... I don't smoke weed nowdays

[Nasty]

I don't know your back ground so won't assume re what you would know.
What i do know from experience is that prolonged use of Voltaren(sp) DOES screw your stomach lining...then again,over use of pot can cause issues too,obviously
I chose to use a minimal amount of pot which worked well for me.
BTW... I don't smoke weed nowdays

I know you don't know my backgroun or medical history .... or family history .. I guess after using voltarin for the past 15 years on and off and still having a stomach lining that is fine I am a lucky one ... but then again .. I use stuff when I need it and not as prescribed e.g. three times a day every day.

I chose not to use pot for extremely good reasons which are not needed here ... but again that is a choice and for me a good one ... like the voltarin right place right time right information ...

PS if ever on voltarin or other stomach irritating drugs .. .take drug then take some yoghurt with acidophilus (sp) ... or drink some milk ... this helps to reline the stomach with the good bugs that the voltarin kills

[Toaster]

I'll just stick to coffee thanks. I like my brain in one piece.

Been helping a friend get over a drug addiction - pot.... she now has her memory back and feels a great deal more alert. Maybe something to think about guys.

[Ixion]

You are all aware of the proposed sell out by Dear Leader and Annette King of NZ control over our pharmaceutical and (more importantly) herbal and dietary supplement laws ?

The net effect of which will be , in practice, to force almost all vitamin mineral and herbal products off the market, except for a few token multi-vitmain type presentation (surprisingly, from the big multinationals ) , with levels of active substance so low as to be meaningless.

Further info here and here

One of the very things I agree with the tree hugger over.

[DMNTD:Me]

PS if ever on voltarin or other stomach irritating drugs .. .take drug then take some yoghurt with acidophilus (sp) ... or drink some milk ... this helps to reline the stomach with the good bugs that the voltarin kills

That right there is good advice

[Str8 Jacket]

Been helping a friend get over a drug addiction - pot.... she now has her memory back and feels a great deal more alert. Maybe something to think about guys.

Everyones different mate, some people that I know are actually better off for smoking the 'erb. Just cause people smoke weed doesnt make (all of) them addicts. But we are talking about medicinal use here, not addictions after all. I would rather put "natural" drugs in my system than "artificial" ones. Unfortunately im having a few health issues ATM and I have to be on "artificial" drugs. Those drugs give me nausea and stomach cramps and severe mood swings all symptoms that can be cured by weed. I suppose its a vicious cycle in a way.....

[Ixion]

Hemp used to be in the Pharmacopaeia. Until 1932 in fact (and the Codex , still later). It was only banned for medicinal use in the UK in 1975

That it does have genuine medicinal uses is uncontestable (I have never used it myself).

The British Pharmaceutical Codex.
Published by direction of the Council of the Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain, 1911.

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CANNABIS INDICA, B.P.
INDIAN HEMP.

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Indian hemp (Indian Cannabis, U.S.P.) consists of the dried flowering or fruiting tops of the pistillate plant of Cannabis sativa, Linn. (N.O. Urticaceae), grown in India. It is also official in the U.S.P. The hemp plant is an annual dioecious herb, indigenous to Central India and Western Asia. When grown in tropical countries the pistillate plant produces an oleoresinous secretion, to which the physiological action of the drug is due. This secretion is formed in stalked glands, which are particularly abundant on the upper leaves and bracts, to increase the number of which the plants are carefully pruned. The staminate plants are eradicated before they arrive at maturity, but the pistillate plants produce a few staminate flowers, which fertilise many of the plants. The tops are collected, allowed to wilt, and pressed by treading with the feet into flattened masses, which remain more or less compacted together by the adhesive resinous secretion. In this form the drug is exported from Bombay, and known commercially as guaza. A more active variety is the Bengal drug, which is termed ganjah. This is in smaller, shorter masses which are rounded instead of flattened, and hence sometimes called round ganjah. It is exported from Calcutta, but such as reaches this country is re-exported, and practically none is offered on the market. It is largely consumed in India, but rapidly deteriorates in activity. In addition to the ganjah (or guaza) the larger leaves of the plant are also collected, and form, when dried, "bhang" or "hashish"; this is generally consumed by making it into a confection or drink. Sometimes the plants are beaten on to cloths, and the resin which adheres to them collected; this is known as charas or churrus, and like ganjah, is commonly smoked. It is on account of the possible separation of the resin that the British Pharmacopoeia specifies the drug "from which the resin has not been removed." Preparations are most active when made from an extract prepared in India from the fresh drug, and exported in sealed tubes. Hemp tops grown in more temperate climates have been offered in place of Indian hemp, but may be distinguished by their brighter colour and less resinous nature. Indian hemp occurs in rough, flattened, brownish-green masses, from 5 to 30 centimetres long, consisting of the branched upper part of the stem, bearing leaves and pistillate flowers or fruits matted together.

Constituents.—The narcotic effect of Indian hemp appears to be produced by the resinous secretion of the glands. This resin has been obtained as a soft, brown substance (cannabinone), the chief constituent of which is cannabinol, C21H30O2. This compound has been obtained from charas in the form of a viscid, reddish oil, possessing a powerful narcotic action, but resinifying and becoming less active on exposure to the air; cannabinol may also be obtained from hashish, etc. In addition to the resin and its important constituent cannabinol, Indian hemp also contains fat, wax, the alkaloid choline, and traces of volatile oil. The names cannabin (a resinoid), cannabene, cannabine (an alleged alkaloid), and cannabindon have been applied to different impure substances obtained from Indian hemp; the name cannabinine has been applied to a volatile, liquid alkaloid, resembling nicotine in odour, which is said to have been extracted from the drug in minute quantity. Indian hemp yields from 10 to 18 per cent. of substances soluble in alcohol, and leaves, when incinerated, about 15 per cent. of ash. Hemp resin of different seasons and from different districts contains different amounts of cannabinol; the attempt has therefore been made to standardise preparations of Indian hemp, by determination of the amount of cannabinol and by experiments on animals.

Action and Uses.—Indian hemp acts chiefly on the central nervous system. It first produces excitement with hallucinations, a feeling of happiness and indifference to surroundings, this stage being followed by deep sleep. The hallucinations include inability to estimate time and space. In the East the hemp is smoked and almost immediately produces symptoms of pleasurable excitement, followed by depression and lethargy. It is used as an anodyne sedative or hypnotic, in mania, spasmodic coughs, phthisis, asthma, acute neuralgia, dysmenorrhoea, and tetanus. It does not produce constipation nor loss of appetite. An alcoholic extract of Indian hemp is the basis of medicinal preparations of this drug, and from it the tincture is prepared. The extract is usually administered in pills, which may be massed with lycopodium or powdered liquorice. Tincture of Indian hemp is a constituent of, and gives the green colour to, compound tincture of chloroform and morphine. Indian hemp is sometimes smoked by the asthmatic. Used thus, its action is more rapid than when taken internally. In cases of poisoning, the stomach should be evacuated, and the usual methods adopted to prevent collapse and respiratory failure.
PREPARATIONS.

Extractum Cannabis Indicae, B.P.—EXTRACT OF INDIAN HEMP.
Exhaust Indian hemp, in coarse powder, with alcohol, by percolation, and evaporate the percolate to form a soft extract. Commercial extracts of Indian hemp vary considerably, containing, with the green ether-soluble substance, indefinite amounts of a brown extractive insoluble in ether. Some specimens contain a considerable amount of residue insoluble in alcohol; this should not exceed 2 per cent. The extract deteriorates on keeping owing to slow oxidation; it should be stored in small full jars hermetically sealed, or better, in collapsible tubes from which small quantities can be easily weighed. Dose.—15 to 60 milligrams (1/4 to 1 grain).
Extractum Cannabis Indicae, U.S.P.—EXTRACT OF INDIAN CANNABIS.
Indian cannabis, in No. 20 powder, 100; alcohol (95 per cent.), a sufficient quantity. Average dose.—1 centigram (1/5 grain).
Fluidextractum Cannabis Indicae, U.S.P.—FLUIDEXTRACT OF INDIAN CANNABIS.
Indian cannabis, in No. 30 powder, 100; alcohol (95 per cent.), sufficient to produce 100. Average dose.—5 centimils (0.05 milliliters) (1 minim).
Tinctura Cannabis Indicae, B.P.—TINCTURE OF INDIAN HEMP.
Extract of Indian hemp, 5; alcohol, sufficient to produce 100. Add the extract to 90 of the alcohol, dissolve, filter if necessary, and add sufficient alcohol to make up to the required volume. This tincture should be preserved in closely-stoppered bottles and kept in a dark place. Mixtures containing tincture of Indian hemp require the addition of one-eighth of their bulk of mucilage of gum acacia. The mucilage should be diluted with twice its bulk of water and the tincture—measured in a dry measure—added in successive small portions, shaking after each addition. Dose.—3 to 10 decimils (0.3 to 1. milliliters) (5 to 15 minims).
Tinctura Cannabis Indicae, U.S.P.—TINCTURE OF INDIAN CANNABIS.
Indian cannabis, in No. 40 powder, 10; alcohol (95 per cent.), sufficient to produce 100. Average dose.—6 decimils (0.6 milliliters) (10 minims).

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CANNABINAE TANNAS.
CANNABINE TANNATE.

Cannabine tannate is a substance prepared commercially by distilling Indian hemp with steam to deprive it of its volatile oil, extracting with water, precipitating the aqueous extract with lead acetate, decomposing this with hydrogen sulphide and combining the cannabine thus set free with tannic acid; or the aqueous extract may be directly precipitated with tannic acid. It is assumed to be the salt of an alkaloid, but the dark-brown viscid mass to which the name cannabine is applied does not appear to be a pure substance. Cannabine tannate occurs in the form of a brownish powder, having a somewhat bitter and strongly astringent taste, and a not unpleasant odour. It should dissolve without residue in 10 parts of alcohol containing 10 per cent. of hydrochloric acid, and should be free from narcotic odour.

Sparingly soluble in water, alcohol, or ether; soluble in acidified alcohol, or in water made alkaline.

Action and Uses.—Cannabine tannate is used as a hypnotic in nervous insomnia, also in dysmenorrhoea and menorrhagia, and is said to be free from the intoxicating properties of Cannabis Indica. Its activity varies very greatly, but it is generally of little value, often being quite inert. It is usually administered in pills, massed with glycerin of tragacanth, or in cachets; it may be dissolved in sal volatile and water, but has a disagreeable astringent taste.

Dose.—2 1/2 to 5 decigrams (4 to 8 grains).

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