X-ring chains - how fricking retarded

[cheese]

I got one cause I was told that they are better than a oring and only $30 more, so I got one and teh link it came with needs a special tool to form it on and it costs $70!!!

Just having a moan.

Meh

[merv]

Same applies to a decent o-ring chain coz you are talking about the rivetted link they have so no need to moan at all really coz they both should be done like this. Buy the tool once and you'll have it forever.

[mangell6]

So this extra tool can be used on other makes and models of chains, ingenious!

[merv]

So this extra tool can be used on other makes and models of chains, ingenious!

Watch out Mike, different brands of chains use different rivetting methods. I stick to DID which has the hollow pin end type that gets swaged over by screwing the rivetter in, no hammering needed. Others use the type that kind of taper rivet the pin ends when you hammer the tool.

[cheese]

Well that fucked me off. i just had to put the old chain and sprockets on.

So gay!

I'll order a normal clip on monday

[merv]

So you are going to run a 50+ hp bike with an ordinary clip link then? I presume this was for the 04 CR250.

[terbang]

I run 100 HP+ through a chain with a clip, have done for years, no probs.

[NordieBoy]

I use clips on all my bikes (have to check the DR though).

[jimmy 2006]

terbang,

what is that thing on the bottom of your posts talking about ISP addresses??

[T.W.R]

Xring chain is a bit over the top for an off-roader
A well maintained non O-ring standard chain will last pretty close to the duration of a O-ring or X-ring chain in off-road conditions.
Nothing wrong with using clip joiner links, when they're fitted properly they are as durable as a rivet type joiner. Plus they ease maintenance of the chain also (washing it properly etc).

[merv]

A well maintained non O-ring standard chain will last pretty close to the duration of a O-ring or X-ring chain in off-road conditions.

That I wouldn't agree with - standard chains just don't cut it in the dirt no matter how well you keep them clean and lubed.

[quallman1234]

How much was the chain?
I just bought a chain as a spare for when mine wears out completely

Is 110$ (I think he gave me it for 100 tho) expensive for a O-Ring chain?

[T.W.R]

That I wouldn't agree with - standard chains just don't cut it in the dirt no matter how well you keep them clean and lubed.

Non O-ring chains can be cleaned more efficiently than a O-ring once any contaminants get caught with the actual O-rings there's no way to remove them and will end up having the O-ring act as a retainer for grinding paste. O-rings in a chain expand & contract just as efficiently as a normal O-ring and being in a confined area absorb material more easily than they release material.
That's why a lot of O-ring chains grow multiple tight-spots compared to a non O-ring chain that just slops out over time

[RiderInBlack]

Hate clip joint chains. Lost way too many clips off my little GSXR250 until I replaced the clip with wire. Now all my bikes are rivet joined chains.
On the road bikes, I have found that the O-ring chains last so much better than non-O-ring types. The Litttle GSXR250 was going though the non-O-ring chains in 3-6months So far I have had very good runs out of good quaility standard O-ring chains as long as I clean them and lube them regularly (about 30,000 - 40,000km per chain on "Roxanne" the CBR1000FL). By the time I need to replace them it is about time to do the sprockets as well.

[Danger]

Cheese, if the only tool you need is to peen the rivet over you can improvise. Lay the bike over and put something substantial underneath such as a sledge hammer or even get some one to hold a smaller hammer against the back of it. Then with another hammer and a small chisel you can peen the rivet at 12-6 oclock and then at 3-9 oclock so that you have a X type effect on the rivet. You can even hit the rivet with a small ball peen hammer to get a little more squish. That should be enough to do the job.