Am I being paranoid ?

[FROSTY:Me]

as the rules stand anyone that goes on the racetrack understands the risks and races knowing you can get hurt.
The whole point of racing is pushing the envelope.
I have a mental image of racers pulling into the pits and cops handing out tickets for dangerous use to everyone that rubbed fairings or "stole" another guys lines.
OK OK--enough of the sillyness. -I would be pretty sure that organised competitions will be exempt from these rules. BUT
To me its really gonna stuff up open track days -The pay ya money and go out and play kind. The way it reads to me is that is the very type of scenario the cops are looking to stamp out.
Like the drifters -with 4 mates in the car with them smashing into the wall at castrol.

[Hitcher]

as the rules stand anyone that goes on the racetrack understands the risks and races knowing you can get hurt.
The whole point of racing is pushing the envelope.
I have a mental image of racers pulling into the pits and cops handing out tickets for dangerous use to everyone that rubbed fairings or "stole" another guys lines.
OK OK--enough of the sillyness. -I would be pretty sure that organised competitions will be exempt from these rules. BUT
To me its really gonna stuff up open track days -The pay ya money and go out and play kind. The way it reads to me is that is the very type of scenario the cops are looking to stamp out.
Like the drifters -with 4 mates in the car with them smashing into the wall at castrol.

It's not just the cops. It's a consequence of the whole OSH/ACC palaver. Remember the cycle race to Akaroa where a cyclist got killed by an oncoming car? The effect that has had on all manner of events from lolly scrambles upwards is frightening. Time to lock ourselves away in our padded cells and throw away the key?

[riffer]

Well Devil cheer up you will be able to continue doing dumb stuff in the middle of nowhere, you will just have to look left and right to make sure there are no plods on duty first.

This sounds a bit like the tree falling in the woods scenario.

If you do dumb stuff in the middle of nowhere, and there's no one to see it, was it really dumb?

[FROSTY:Me]

not having a go at the cops hitcher. just a mental image flashed through my head. -radar guns on the back straight etc.
Cops are the poor bastards that have to enforce the legislation.

[riffer]

not having a go at the cops hitcher. just a mental image flashed through my head. -radar guns on the back straight etc.
Cops are the poor bastards that have to enforce the legislation.

Surely road speed rules don't apply to the track do they?

What would happen to motor vehicle ads that quite clearly state "This advertisement was filmed on a close road"?

I thought the whole point of a closed private road was that the road rules do not apply.

It would be a brave cop that tried to stop a race and apply the road rules to it.

[Blakamin]

And if the opposition first-five sidesteps you and you stiff-arm tackle and kill him, that's not part of rugby?

Dunno, I was born in melbourne
is a stiff-arm a legal thing? if not, face the consequences, if so, the killing bit was probably an accident

[Blakamin]

This sounds a bit like the tree falling in the woods scenario.

If you do dumb stuff in the middle of nowhere, and there's no one to see it, was it really dumb?

hope not or i'm one of the dumbest people i know!

[FROSTY:Me]

Surely road speed rules don't apply to the track do they?

What would happen to motor vehicle ads that quite clearly state "This advertisement was filmed on a close road"?

I thought the whole point of a closed private road was that the road rules do not apply.

It would be a brave cop that tried to stop a race and apply the road rules to it.

Sorry celtic--I was kinda waay out there in dream land imagining it.
Mind you -imagine a booze bus halfway down the back straight.
And the courage /stupidity of the cop trying to stop a feild of screaming gsxr1000's heading at him at 250km/h plus.
And of course then there would be the need of pursuit cars to catch the bikes.--Hmm I think messers schumaker and murphy might have apropriate vehicles.-Murphs holden with redn whites on the roof

[Indiana_Jones]

God I hate PC-ness, I heard at one time they wanted to have fences around all water features over 4cm deep

-Indy

[tassle]

what concerns me is .What if you are on a mates farm,playing tag on your dirt bikes,someone gets hurt(knocked off) while playing tag(touch),gets a helicopter ride ,just brusing, does this mean you get done for careless use,dangerous driving.its only an example as motorbike tag is not an olympic sport. are we really going to have to wrap ourselves in little white fluffies.

[toads]

God I hate PC-ness, I heard at one time they wanted to have fences around all water features over 4cm deep

-Indy

you and me both indy, it really spells trouble for the average toilet doesn't it!.

[FROSTY:Me]

I gave the herald a ring-I figgered let them do the research.
So lets sit back and see if there is further development

[riffer]

I gave the herald a ring-I figgered let them do the research.
So lets sit back and see if there is further development

and congrats on the 2000th post ...

[MD]

What I can't see is what's changed to need this new law? Sure more idiots own 4WDs (is there any other kind of 4WD owner?). But we've had Hoons, me for one, ripping up the countryside on dirk bikes for decades and farm lads on all sorts of off road vehicles, beach buggies etc..Never needed a special law before. I doubt that I could have hurt/killed someone years ago on the Waimak river or beach and got off scott free. If using a vehicle offroad is now dangerous then same logic means other things will need a 'special law' e.g. using a chainsaw and hurting someone, intentional or not. I'm no lawyer but there must be laws to cover reckless endangerment/injury by any means?
Examples are that tandem Hangglider pilot in Queenstown and that bitch that drove through the party goers near Wakatane last year. That was offroad but didn't stop the Law charging them (lets not get sidetracked with the pathetic jury)
Personally I'd support a law banning 4wds from our roads altogether. Let em stay offroad, thats where their design features intended them to be, not clogging our m/ways and supermarket carparks.

[Hitcher]

what concerns me is .What if you are on a mates farm,playing tag on your dirt bikes,someone gets hurt(knocked off) while playing tag(touch),gets a helicopter ride ,just brusing, does this mean you get done for careless use,dangerous driving.its only an example as motorbike tag is not an olympic sport. are we really going to have to wrap ourselves in little white fluffies.

In terms of legal liability it is your mate who owns the farm who is in the gun, as it were.