VFR owners' thread, for VFRPS members and prospective members

[koba]

I can do it on a 55yr old 180 odd kg Norton Domi. KB warriors should be able to do it with their eyes closed.

Especially with the super amazing unique v4 engines.

[Icemaestro]

Jono - was it you who also had the raceevolution fairings? How were yours?

I've just got the bike back, the rear panel is still shocking, the two sides don't line up properly at the rear, can se it from a mile off, big gaps in the rear lights, the rear lock doesn't fit still (the guy him self has got a 'professional' to fit them btw), and naturally they have locked the seat so can't get the rear fairing off even. the bit below the pillion lock has a massive gap in it....

And to fix the mis aligned tabs on the side fairings (where it joined the front cowl)...they snapped them off...

And he said they couldn't fit the front mudguard because he reckons my forks are bent....(if that's true how come my current one is fine?...though he claimed that the current one rubs on the tire which it doesnt, except on the little bits of rubber sticking out that are from it being on the track)

And after this professional installation - 70% of the bolts still are sticking out 'cause the holes are'nt big enough...

Am I just being picky? Where should I go to from here? I've got the bike and everything at home right now - he wasn't there when I picked it up, I talked to him on the phone when I went to pick it up.

[DrunkenMistake]

post pictures? lol

[Icemaestro]

Will do tomorrow when it's light.

[DrunkenMistake]

Sweet as.

10 Char.

[Icemaestro]

post pictures? lol

Rear bit how the panels don't line up
Inside front fairings showing where they've snapped off the bits to make them fit
Paint runs everywhere! Didn't notice so much before, but now they're on the bike and in sunlight..
more inside panel shot
Paint scheme doesn't line up with each other either
Shot of how the pillion lock is sitting (it is stuck there, can't move it, can't unlock the seat

[Steve Gauge]

Mate is this still carrying on, so this guy( race evolution ) told you to take to your bike to a so called professional (who did you take it to?) who has now broken tabs of the side fairings which most likely eventually blow off and has boggyed up the rest of your bike and your expected to except this , ,mate if he thinks this exceptable he isnt going to last long , man throw these shit not worth $300 fairings back in the box they came in tell him to get them picked up and refund you in full otherwise if you paid by visa get hold of them and get your money back that way ,what a joke ,he even states on his website a name you trust haaha-a name you can trust in china what a cock , serousily ice maestro you have been way to patient .this is unexceptable

[Icemaestro]

On me saying to him I was unable to get the fairings to fit, taking photos, video etc, he said that HIS professional installer could do it....so it is HIS guy who has done this...

Have uploaded all the photos I have sent him here: http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/Icemaestro/

and sent him an email saying this:

Hi,
Have taken photos after your professional fitting job. There is also a photo in there showing how the wheel and front mud guard don’t touch (#4), also shows the little nobbles of rubber left from the track.
Photos show as follows:

#5 = mismatched front radiator piece
#6, #23 = where you’ve just broken the tabs off to make them fit
#8. #20 = still no attachment for the side trim to screw into the fairings – I quote from your side “Complete with all internal fixings required”
#9, #19 = screws sitting out – when you are paying for professional fitting, this does not look like it has been fitted!
#10, #11, #12 – gaps etc between fairings, mis aligned fairings
#13, #14 – on seeing the fairings in sunlight, It is easy to see the paint runs all down the sides of the rear fairing
#15 – massive gaps between seat and fairing
#16 – Lock sitting out – it is jammed there, likely by the locking tab behind it, however I think it is probably this that means that the seat lock cannot be undone, and therefore I cannot get the pillion seat off to take the rear fairings off!
#18 = fairings not fitting together, mis aligned
#21 = fairing bulge where radiator tube should fit (it’s a stock part, can’t change the direction of it!) is off by 2-3cm
#22 = where you can see the broken tabs the installer has broken to get it to fit from the outside, not to mention the fairings still not fitting together properly
#24 – the front cowl doesn’t seem to be aligned properly as the light is pressed hard up against the top, not allowing the rubber coverings to go around it to prevent light spilling behind the dash – as a result, the area behind the dash is brightly lit at night when the lights are on, making it difficult to see
#26 the radiator gard is sitting ON the engine….
#27, #28 – now that the pieces are on the bike – can see the paint scheme doesn’t line up

To sum this up, as you have had the chance to professionally fit them yourself and have been unable to rectify the problems I pointed out as I was able to in the first place, I would like a full refund, or I will be taking this to the small claims court.
Not sure how as a biker yourself you can take so much money for such a shoddy job as these! How would you feel if painwork didn’t align, there were drip marks everywhere, tabs had to be broken off to just get fairings to sit together, yet still not align right, and be left with a bike where you can’t open the pillion seat or take the rear fairings off! (will need help figuring out how to do this by the way!)

Let me know of your decision, and also how I am to remove the rear fairings.

[Icemaestro]

Mate is this still carrying on, so this guy( race evolution ) told you to take to your bike to a so called professional (who did you take it to?) who has now broken tabs of the side fairings which most likely eventually blow off and has boggyed up the rest of your bike and your expected to except this , ,mate if he thinks this exceptable he isnt going to last long , man throw these shit not worth $300 fairings back in the box they came in tell him to get them picked up and refund you in full otherwise if you paid by visa get hold of them and get your money back that way ,what a joke ,he even states on his website a name you trust haaha-a name you can trust in china what a cock , serousily ice maestro you have been way to patient .this is unexceptable

Thanks Steve :-P was thinking maybe I was asking too much, but for $948, plus the fee he wants to charge for his professional fitting them (because I said they wouldn't fit together), I would expect a better job than the ebay fairings I can get here for 4-500$ Delivered

[jono035]

Jono - was it you who also had the raceevolution fairings? How were yours?

I've just got the bike back, the rear panel is still shocking, the two sides don't line up properly at the rear, can se it from a mile off, big gaps in the rear lights, the rear lock doesn't fit still (the guy him self has got a 'professional' to fit them btw), and naturally they have locked the seat so can't get the rear fairing off even. the bit below the pillion lock has a massive gap in it....

And to fix the mis aligned tabs on the side fairings (where it joined the front cowl)...they snapped them off...

And he said they couldn't fit the front mudguard because he reckons my forks are bent....(if that's true how come my current one is fine?...though he claimed that the current one rubs on the tire which it doesnt, except on the little bits of rubber sticking out that are from it being on the track)

And after this professional installation - 70% of the bolts still are sticking out 'cause the holes are'nt big enough...

Am I just being picky? Where should I go to from here? I've got the bike and everything at home right now - he wasn't there when I picked it up, I talked to him on the phone when I went to pick it up.

I haven't got mine back yet, AJ was supposed to be fitting them last week but I forgot to ring up and find out how he got on.

I don't think you're being picky at all... The money he is charging is quite a lot more than you would expect to pay straight from china, by my understanding. This would lead me to believe that he was offering some form of service beyond ordering the things for you, which is what it appears he is doing...

I really don't know where to go from there though, and I hope like hell that mine aren't that bad.

That e-mail looks good. That's pretty much what I would be doing. If mine come out like that, I'll be having to think long and hard about what to do about it. I guess go the same route and get a set of fibreglass fairings.

And lol at 'professional'.

[Steve Gauge]

Thats unbeleivable him charging you for fitting these ,he calls this a successfuul fitting of fairings if hes so happy about it maybe he should put these photos on his website im dumb founded mate , I bet this isnt his only come back if I was him I would be shitting myself and I would get your money back as soon as possible because I think he will disappear soon , find out were he lives (you will need it to go to small claims )and go pay him avisit , im real interested to see what other people think mate if it wasnt such alot of money it would be funny . some people
p.s I think the same guy tried to put adds on kiwibiker last week but they got removed

[Icemaestro]

Yeah I saw those ads..was tempted to comment but someone beat me to it ;-) yes I have his address and all emails saved. We'll see what he says back! Ugh I've heard it's a nightmare going through things with the disputes tribunal :-p

Let us know jono how yours turn out..then at least either we'll have an example of good ones from him (and prove mine are faulty) or show that his stuff is just generally rubbish and can band together!

Cheers guys :-)

[HenryDorsetCase]

That's pretty bad all right.



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Change of topic.

You guys were talking earlier about the airbox snorkel. Can someone post a pic of one?

Reason for asking is I took my track only VFR out for a Sunday pootle today (tsk tsk, I know) and gave it a bit of a seeing to. It has a light stumble/miss at about 10k rpm, but still pulls to redline at 14k. I would like to try the airbox snorkel cos I dont think I have one on mine.

If you have one and want to get rid of it, sing out. Neither of the airboxes I have appear to have anything that might fit the description.

Oh yeah, no way would I have a sports bike on the road again: fark me it was uncomfortable to ride..... full pressup position, neck craned back, legs all squashed up, and the high kick to get on the bloody thing.... fine on track but terrible in traffic.

[Icemaestro]

The airbox snorkel? It's this bit here (taken from the web)

Gave my spare to rf sorry..if your willing to pay aj from motohous
Should have a spare.

On the comfort side, does your track one have the modified rear shock or raised rear? Cause the stock ones I've sat on don't feel too bad!

[HenryDorsetCase]

The airbox snorkel? It's this bit here (taken from the web)

Gave my spare to rf sorry..if your willing to pay aj from motohous
Should have a spare.

On the comfort side, does your track one have the modified rear shock or raised rear? Cause the stock ones I've sat on don't feel too bad!

thanks for that. Mine dont have it fo' sho'

I'm not used to riding with clipons now, plus I have an Ohlins shock which is longer than stock. No ground clearance issues now! (well, except when standing my arse is too close to the ground )