tried lifting your elbows up/out and looking through the gap?Originally Posted by Ender EnZed
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tried lifting your elbows up/out and looking through the gap?
Long Haired Yobbo
A false alarm regarding a new Honda V4?!?!!
Never!
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Hardcore Biker
Info is now on the Honda UK site:
Honda UK: http://ww1.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/
VFR 1200 Promo from Honda UK site: http://www.feelvfr.com/en_GB/pages/mainpage
Brochure (21MB pdf): http://videos.feelv4.com/vfr/images/pdfs/EIL_UK.pdf
Enjoy!
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We regret to announce the death of the VFR...
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That isn't a VFR.
You can actually see where they've taken the round BMW badge off, and bodge'd a round Honda badge on in place of it.
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Yeah it's not that I can't see behind at all but it takes more effort than seems reasonable.
L-Plate Rider
yea ive gotta pretty mint cbr250 mc22, runs real well and i beat any of my mates on there 250s. i see a could sell my bike for 5kish and buy a vfr400 for about the same money. are they much more powerful than what i already have or should i go for a 600?
L-Plate Rider
oh yea and money is tight. i can pretty mush spend what i get for my bike.
Forum whore
you can get a good nc30 for 5k. the same can't be said for a modern "supersport" 600.
yep the 400 should have enough grunt to keep you amused - you're going from 40 to 60 hp plus low down torque. the modern 600 supersport is well over 100hp and frankly are a bit of a leap for a learner. the 400 is much more forgiving and less likely to simply flick you off, plus you can actually thrash it; the 600 really needs to be used on a track.
as the uni club safety officer i've seen quite a few learners from through the ranks and they tend to do alot better by graduating to the 400 or a larger capacity twin rather than straight to the r6 or gsxr. The guys who do make the jump tend to bin it more often and generally aren't as good riders at the end of it.
the biggest difference for me personally is that a 400 simply loves tight twisty stuff where it mops the floor with any 600, whereas the 600 only makes sense on a track and/or over the posted speed limit. Also, the 600 supersport is a very silly thing to buy if you value your licence.
if it's instructive at all, i've three times had a go on a 600 for a month where i was meant to "upgrade" and always gone back to the 400, and after my nc30 was stolen i was immediately out looking for a new one rather than picking up the r6 sitting in the garage
finally, with a 400 you've always got an excuse for falling behind - but man is it fun having just come out a coro loop having either passed all the larger bikes or kept right up the arse of two idiots at the front - for the record an idiot on an '06 r6 and tuned hornet 900 are no faster, and litrebikes are actually ridden by slow old men with bike too heavy to manage tight corners anyway
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Don't forget to mention the other plusses Andrew.
Like the fact that the NC30's give you far better tyre life than larger bikes, build quality is excellent, no need to worry about cam-chains etc due to the gear-driven cams.
The V4 400's are, for me, the perfect NZ road bike. There may be better bikes for the track - but none for the road.
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yep; a $250 rear tyre every 10000km is damn good compared to $500 in half that distance - though if you're more into touring i'd say ross's rc46 is also perfect; bonus is gear driven cams and none of the newer model's vtec bullshitLike the fact that the NC30's give you far better tyre life than larger bikes, build quality is excellent, no need to worry about cam-chains etc due to the gear-driven cams.
The V4 400's are, for me, the perfect NZ road bike. There may be better bikes for the track - but none for the road.
Long Haired Yobbo
What answer did you think you were going to get from the local VFR fanclub?!!
I say buy a VFR.
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Long Haired Yobbo
There is no need to lie about it!litrebikes are actually ridden by slow old men with bike too heavy to manage tight corners anyway
VFR's are good but I think they don't handle any better than a modern litrebike or 600, its just easier for mere mortals to use them.
Any road comparisons don't mean shit its all about who is willing to take the biggest risks or if the other person is even trying.
Stick a nutter on a GN250 and he will roll up litrebikes if he is keen/suicidal enough.
VFRs are great bikes.
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Forum whore
they are much easier to flick over from side to side, and can do it quicker, all a virtue of a low centre of gravity.
the power is very manageable with a broad spread and nothing too excessive - right on the border where a fistful won't spin up the rear but a dump of clutch will.
the front brakes were later used to haul up the 220kg firestorm.
the geometry is perfect for tight corners.
the bike is ridiculously forgiving - Several times I've lost the front and/or rear to regain traction without a front washout, lowside nor highside.
and finally, the lower seating position gives a greater sense of speed
having quite a bit of experience on different bikes the vfr is definitely king of tight corners
Long Haired Yobbo
I could say all of that about a CB125 Single too...the bike is ridiculously forgiving - Several times I've lost the front and/or rear to regain traction without a front washout, lowside nor highside.
and finally, the lower seating position gives a greater sense of speed
having quite a bit of experience on different bikes the vfr is definitely king of tight corners
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