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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun
    they siad on the tv that it was illegal to do it.
    Find the law in the legislation and you'd be doing well.. I'll think you'll find that there isn't one for fraud in this case. Even codified law is subject to interpretation. However, the original statutory regulation is still in force and the removal of the pink sticker is an offence - see attached.

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    it is a 'using a document' offence, as she gains a pecuniary advantage or valuable consideration from the plate swapping, however the original LT act offence is the most appropriate - a hang over from the MOT days when they couldn't arrest for crimes act offences.
    i know of a large company that was printing their own RUC slips - they got charged with false pretences, and i know of a few boy racers that have been charged with fraud for scanning and making their own licence labels/wof labels.

    she could (should?) have been locked up for failing to comply with a direction of an officer that a vehicle not be operated', or if the car is a 'danger' to other road users, and she has been told at least 3 times that it is, why not lock her up for 'dangerous driving'?

    the test here is that it is no offence to get another rego plate for her car, but what is her intention when she does it? is it to deceive or gain something that she is not otherwise entitled to? her intention forms the more serious fraud offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano
    On motorway patrol last night, a young 'lady' was pulled over and found to be driving a vehicle that had previously been pink stickered (4 times I think).

    Instead of getting the vehicle up to standard, she would simply re-register the vehicle with different plates.

    The cops said that this amounted to fraud (using a document for pecuniary purposes or something like that), she was totally unremorseful and is likely to do it again, yet the cops only ticketed her for no wof or rego. I can't understand why she wasn't done for fraud ? The cops were laughing away about it as they left....big joke eh.
    I can't think of the actual cases but I have heard that its been tried in the court before and didn't stand up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudchucka
    I can't think of the actual cases but I have heard that its been tried in the court before and didn't stand up??

    Did you check under the "Fish and Chip Act" Spud?

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    Remind me NEVER to go riding with you, your a bloody COP magnet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty
    it is a 'using a document' offence, as she gains a pecuniary advantage or valuable consideration from the plate swapping, however the original LT act offence is the most appropriate - a hang over from the MOT days when they couldn't arrest for crimes act offences.
    she could (should?) have been locked up for failing to comply with a direction of an officer that a vehicle not be operated', or if the car is a 'danger' to other road users, and she has been told at least 3 times that it is, why not lock her up for 'dangerous driving'?

    the test here is that it is no offence to get another rego plate for her car, but what is her intention when she does it? is it to deceive or gain something that she is not otherwise entitled to? her intention forms the more serious fraud offence.
    I wonder if it would stand up in court?
    -hey dont get me wrong -she shouldn't be on the road -plain and simple
    But would doing something that isn't against the law be turned into something she could be prosecuted for?
    Personally I thing its simple-Bang impounded-do not pass go do not collect $100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose
    Did you check under the "Fish and Chip Act" Spud?
    Its a good one all right but I aint going to court on it.

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