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    Quote Originally Posted by Grub View Post
    Yes they have, search the forums for the last time this was raised. The new regulations (2 months old now) were quoted.

    As far as I can recall, the new regs say that any swaged connection is allowed, numbers not relevant
    They always did , in fact. The new regs clarify but don't change.

    What the original said was that braided lines had to meet one of a range of standards. The important thing about the standards was that the lines had to be swaged.

    But testers interpreted that as meaning that the lines had to have some standard marked on them. Now they have simplified the intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyz View Post
    that would be right! I only ended up with briaded line on the rear cause the original broke and some nice lad gave me one to get the bike running again. no fear, its someone elses problem now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    They always did , in fact. The new regs clarify but don't change.

    What the original said was that braided lines had to meet one of a range of standards. The important thing about the standards was that the lines had to be swaged.

    But testers interpreted that as meaning that the lines had to have some standard marked on them. Now they have simplified the intent.
    Which means the items that were ripped off and replaced with marked items, at a cost to me, have now magically become legal agian. The law is an ass as they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    They always did , in fact. The new regs clarify but don't change.
    There are very few changes made to the WoF regs,most are wording changes like this latest one.Previously the wording said they had to meet a standard,but they only supplied the Federal standard in the VIRM,no one knew what numbers were supposed to be on there anyway.The new wording just bypasses the standards crap and gives simpler pass or fail info.

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    So what is swaged ? is that the crimp from hose to fitting,why I ask just failed wof due to [hose end fittings that can be undone with handtools ] in other words bolt together type and these are crimped onto hose ,never said anything re no dot markings.
    Guy I bought them off said they are legal but vtnz say no
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    Post a picture of them. can't tell from your description.

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    They have earls active on them nothing else
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    If the red part is crimped to the hose, and can't be removed, then those are legal. If the red part can be removed from the hose, then they aren't.

    The screw on adaptors (the blue bits) don't preclude them from getting a warrant, they're just adaptors, which aren't illegal, but you're not allowed to be able to diassemble the hose.

    Without touching them and looking at them closer, they look like they're just regular female female 'universal' hoses with applicable adaptors screwed on... but it's been ages since I mucked around with Earls ones. However, they don't look crimped, so maybe you can disassemble them. Best thing to do is if you've got them off the bike, take them to the warrant guy and confirm with him... it's his call in the end anyway.

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    Yep red part looks crimped to hose thro quite a small crimp the blue bits bolt or screws into red parts.
    Thats what he said not alloyed to be able to un bolt ,i'll check it 2morrow with them , cheers thanks for advice

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    This is all rather good news for me.
    My container is due in on the 11th of June, and the big worry was the HEL braided hoses. As they're sealed swaged fittings with no threaded adaptors, it looks like she'll be legal when she arrives.

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    The good old LTSA....the only failure I've ever had from a brakeline was from a swage not being done properly......
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    I've seen everything from swage failures, hose ripped out of fitting, internal liner splitting, contamination, abrasion failures, etc... The internal liner leaking is the worst though. Get that on a braided line... you're dead. Bend a braided line incorrectly, failure is a matter of time, failure you can't see, and then one day, no brakes. Be gently, don't roll them up tight, jam them in anything, crimp them by mistake, or bend them tightly, you'll be sweet.

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    Where's a good place to get some reasonably priced legal braided lines these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    If the red part is crimped to the hose, and can't be removed, then those are legal. If the red part can be removed from the hose, then they aren't.

    The screw on adaptors (the blue bits) don't preclude them from getting a warrant, they're just adaptors, which aren't illegal, but you're not allowed to be able to diassemble the hose.

    Without touching them and looking at them closer, they look like they're just regular female female 'universal' hoses with applicable adaptors screwed on... but it's been ages since I mucked around with Earls ones. However, they don't look crimped, so maybe you can disassemble them. Best thing to do is if you've got them off the bike, take them to the warrant guy and confirm with him... it's his call in the end anyway.
    Is there some 'official' paper somewhere that confirms this? Got this type on YT's new Ninja. WOF tester told me they were not legal, showed me pics etc, commented that they weren't leaking and issued a WOF anyway.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Is there some 'official' paper somewhere that confirms this? Got this type on YT's new Ninja. WOF tester told me they were not legal, showed me pics etc, commented that they weren't leaking and issued a WOF anyway.
    Got this from the LTSA
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