Army Unimog driver: Not guilty

**Skyryder** · 22nd May 2007, 18:42

Just heard on the news that the Unimgog driver that fell asleep at the wheel killing another truck driver has been disharged. Appaently the guy suffers from low blood pressure and on that basis he has walked.

There's a lot of drivers out there with low blood pressure so if we get wiped out by one that's the new medical defence.

Well if the fuckers have low blood pressure they should not have a licence.

My blood pressure just went up a notch after hearing this.

Skyryder

**doc** · 22nd May 2007, 18:52

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Just heard on the news that the Unimgog driver that fell asleep at the wheel killing another truck driver has been disharged. Appaently the guy suffers from low blood pressure and on that basis he has walked.

There's a lot of drivers out there with low blood pressure so if we get wiped out by one that's the new medical defence.

Well if the fuckers have low blood pressure they should not have a licence.

My blood pressure just went up a notch after hearing this.

Skyryder

What can you say . Lawyers 1, joe bloggs 0

**yod** · 22nd May 2007, 18:54

i assume the boy racer that killed the kid will get off as well then - he suffers from high testosterone....

**dogsnbikes** · 22nd May 2007, 18:58

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Just heard on the news that the Unimgog driver that fell asleep at the wheel killing another truck driver has been disharged. Appaently the guy suffers from low blood pressure and on that basis he has walked.

There's a lot of drivers out there with low blood pressure so if we get wiped out by one that's the new medical defence.

Well if the fuckers have low blood pressure they should not have a licence.

My blood pressure just went up a notch after hearing this.

Skyryder

have to feel for the family of the driver killed

Arent we always been told if you feel sleepy stop and rest sort of makes a mockery of the whole system now doesnt it

**Hitcher** · 22nd May 2007, 19:05

I guess more details of this case will be published soon. I will reserve my judgment until then.

**doc** · 22nd May 2007, 19:10

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I guess more details of this case will be published soon. I will reserve my judgment until then.

This is the problem someone is dead so someone has to be blamed. Accidents aren't accidents anymore. It might be callous but ferkin heck I get real pissed off on holiday weekends when they close the road cos of a fatal acident. And it takes me another 3 hours to get home with tired kids.

**James Deuce** · 22nd May 2007, 20:01

Originally Posted by dogsnbikes

have to feel for the family of the driver killed

Arent we always been told if you feel sleepy stop and rest sort of makes a mockery of the whole system now doesnt it

If he REALLY was hypotensive then he didn't feel sleepy or fall asleep he would have felt terrible for a good 15 minutes and then passed out. I get hypotensive when I get the flu and it puts me in hospital. I don't feel like doing anything when I'm hypotensive except lying in bed and dying.

**Colapop** · 22nd May 2007, 20:42

It is saddening to see the cynicism that has been displayed here. How can you (who have judged this guy) know what happened? Were you there? Do you have to deal with the consequences of this accident - knowing that you killed someone? Yes it is terrible that someone died - the loss for their family is everlasting. But don't be too quick to judge. We have more drunk, speeding drivers on our roads than we need to have and yet, we're quick to judge this young man's guilt based on our perception. He has had his day in court and been found innocent. If you have a problem, perhaps you need to address the system that adjudicated upon his case.

**sinned** · 22nd May 2007, 20:56

He was fortunate to have had a credible witness in the cab with him. Without him a conviction would have been likely. There was unlikely to have been any conversation between them to alert the passenger (Major) of the drivers condition.

**smoky** · 22nd May 2007, 21:12

I gota agree with Colapop to a degree.

I think I’ll wait to hear some more details around what pressure he was under – have to remember he was on duty driving for the armed forces. I don’t know about what orders he was under, if he was or not, but I suspect if your told to drive – you do?
Or is there an element of fatigue that led to ‘low blood whatever it’s called’, what had he been doing all day, that week – were his bosses expecting too much from him?
Who knows – I think I’ll reserve my judgment and trust the system (the jury) in this one.
Actually I suspect there is a few worried military bosses who may have been sweating a little – aren’t they a little responsible here – who knows, and if they are what influence could they have on witnesses, the investigation or ultimately the sentence.
They would be keen to not expose the army to a law suite? Who knows.

**pritch** · 22nd May 2007, 21:14

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I guess more details of this case will be published soon. I will reserve my judgment until then.

I'm with that sentiment.

The Army have had a few accidents in recent years but the circumstances are far from ordinary. They have to train on the very worst roads in the country because when they go to Afghanistan, or East Timor, or wherever, the roads may be roads in name but not as we know them.

In the case in point it would help to know rather more of the circumstances than we have so far...

**Skyryder** · 22nd May 2007, 21:43

Originally Posted by Colapop

It is saddening to see the cynicism that has been displayed here. How can you (who have judged this guy) know what happened? Were you there? Do you have to deal with the consequences of this accident - knowing that you killed someone? Yes it is terrible that someone died - the loss for their family is everlasting. But don't be too quick to judge. We have more drunk, speeding drivers on our roads than we need to have and yet, we're quick to judge this young man's guilt based on our perception. He has had his day in court and been found innocent. If you have a problem, perhaps you need to address the system that adjudicated upon his case.

My cynicism is much the same be it a driver or a biker. It will be interesting to see if this guy loses his licence based on medical grounds. Until that happens I shall remain cynical on this 'crash.'

Skyryder