Newbie - stopped on a hill

[Winter]

depending on where in auckland you are, i can help you my street is a hill and it's in the back of suburbia. so not too many cars to worry about

i'm in st johns park east auckland if you want to come round i can help i would come to you but my bike is in bits.

email me if you want to take up the offer

brngiton@hotmail.com

or add me on msn messenger...same as email address above...

sorry to hijack the thread, but where abouts is st johns park? I live in St Johns, Howard Hunter ave.

[ManDownUnder]

Hey - yeah we've all been there... learn learn learn.

2 things to work on here
1) Clutch control. practice this by finding a car park... ride off as normal, change up in to second gear then pull in the clutch and brake (DON'T change out of 2nd).

Now put on some more revs, and ease the cltch out till it starts to roll.... little by little... it's goin to be hard as first, but with some practice you'll get it, and contrary to popular belief it's not going to kill the clutch.

2) Easing away from a braked stop (i.e. uphill).

Foot brake on, no front brake. Power up, ease out the clutch and when you feel the bike want to start moving, lift off the foot brake... and you're away.

Getting the two synchronised is a bit of practice but you'll get there.
Good luck!
MDU

[Sanx]

I'm in Mt Roskill if anyone wants some pointers. Having said that ... it's all about listening to the engine and feeling where the engagement point of the clutch is. As you let the clutch out gently, you'll hear where the engine note starts to drop. That's the engagement point. You need to gradually increase the throttle and continue to let the clutch out, whilst at the same point let off the foot brake.

Sounds complicated, but in practice it's easy. After you've done a few of them, you'll wonder what all the fuss is about.

Drop me a PM if you want me to pop round and demonstrate.

[sels1]

oh yeah i'm riding a 1990 250cc bandit

heehee sounds just like me.. I ride a GSF250 bandit. .

I've ridden a mates 250 Bandit a few times and they dont seem to have much low down torque, which makes them a bit harder to hill start than a single or v-twin. More revs are required than with other bikes. Its worse if the motor is cold - it needs to be warm enough to rev freely.
Keep practicing, you'll get the hang of it.

[Maha]

samakld posted this several days ago and hasn't checked back, wonder if he is stuck on a hill somewhere? Foot brake/clutch work/revs up a tad....a bit to think about when doing it but practice and it will sort its self out to the point where it will become 2nd nature.....

[howdamnhard]

All the above advice is good , also get somebody more experienced to check your bike out just in case its a problem with your bike , but its more likely you.

[Toddy21]

Hey this is exactly what is happening with my 1990 Bandit 250GSF.... Just wondering if you got to the bottom of the problem?????

No matter how high i rev or how slow i let out the clutch the engine just boggs down taking off up a hill from stationary.... If i manage to crawl to the top of the hill onto flat or down hill then it falls into line and I can accelerate again.... otherwise it usually just stalls out on me.

From what i've been told it is probably the float???? Let me know if you managed to fix the problem and what it was.... It's frustrating the shiz outta me!!!

[breakaway]

Your best bet would be to find someone experienced and let them have a hill start on your bike. Not trying to sound like a dick, but maybe you're just not doing it right?

[Jonathan]

Hey this is exactly what is happening with my 1990 Bandit 250GSF.... Just wondering if you got to the bottom of the problem?????

No matter how high i rev or how slow i let out the clutch the engine just boggs down taking off up a hill from stationary.... If i manage to crawl to the top of the hill onto flat or down hill then it falls into line and I can accelerate again.... otherwise it usually just stalls out on me.

From what i've been told it is probably the float???? Let me know if you managed to fix the problem and what it was.... It's frustrating the shiz outta me!!!

This may sound very elementary but when I first started off I experienced similar issues and these were all due to me Trying To Hill Start From Second Gear. Took me a couple of days to work out you change Down First, then up.

This would explain everything described by OP...

[Jonno.]

Hey this is exactly what is happening with my 1990 Bandit 250GSF.... Just wondering if you got to the bottom of the problem?????

No matter how high i rev or how slow i let out the clutch the engine just boggs down taking off up a hill from stationary.... If i manage to crawl to the top of the hill onto flat or down hill then it falls into line and I can accelerate again.... otherwise it usually just stalls out on me.

From what i've been told it is probably the float???? Let me know if you managed to fix the problem and what it was.... It's frustrating the shiz outta me!!!

Where do you live.

[Slyer]

I'll ride it for ya.
As said, make sure you're in first.

[Old Steve]

I stalled on Elizabeth St hill coming up to Cameron Rd from Takitimu Drive in Tauranga at lunch time today. Felt like a fool, old guy on a big 250 learner's bike with a learner's plate on the back. Worse is, I've loudened up my exhaust so I felt as if everyone around was looking at me.

But don't worry, we all do it.

Eventually got away, used my foot brake to hold me on the hill, got a bit of revs up and used the clutch to take up and ease me away.

Now if I could only remember to cancel my indicators I'd be right

[Toddy21]

I live in Silverdale near Orewa, Auckland

[Jonno.]

I've PMed you.

[The Everlasting]

I myself found the best way to improve is just to keep practising,I find myself to be pretty good at riding the bike now,when i first got it I had trouble changing up and down the gears,I used to be afraid to stop etc,in case it took me too long to get going again.


You know what they say,practice makes perfect!

When your on a hill you use the rear brake to hold the bike,then gradually release your foot of the brake slowly as you feel the clutch grabbing,it's not much different to driving a manual car,as I use the handbrake to get away from a hill.