International licence while disqualified?

[R6_kid:Me]

I am due to lose my licence due to demerits when i pay my most recent ticket. (due within a month and a half).

I have a couple of questions for those in the know.

What is the process for actually 'losing' my licence/right to drive, from demerits - i.e how soon will they actually come and take it off me?

I'm planning on going to Australia either for the short term, 2wks-1mth or possibly an extended holiday if i can find work (3mths+). If i apply for an international licence to drive on whilst in Australia will that become 'disqualified' aswell, or can i be disqualified to drive in NZ, but still drive in Australia?

Do i even need an international licence in Australia?

Just wanting to clear things up before i make any plans, as i would like to be able to get myself around when i am over there.

[xwhatsit]

No you don't need an international licence while in Australia, your NZ one is fine -- for a certain length of time. It used to be 1yr, however now it's like 3 months or something. Not sure if getting an international licence extends this period, indefinitely or at all.

[Genestho]

hmmmmmmmmm

[Marmoot]

You sound like that Asian who came here and drive on unworthy foreign license.....only that you are in Australia and you look like them

[R6_kid:Me]

but you dont need one of those in Aus, for 3 mnths.

hmmm... how convenient!

[marty]

your NZ disqual has no teeth outside of NZ. apply for a copy of your licence, say the one you had was lost. give over the new copy to the baliff when he comes around.

use the previous one as driver ID in aussie.

don't get caught using it in NZ though - your vehicle will be impounded on the road side and you will probably be arrested.

you don't need an international licence for aussie.

[R6_kid:Me]

your NZ disqual has no teeth outside of NZ. apply for a copy of your licence, say the one you had was lost. give over the new copy to the baliff when he comes around.

use the previous one as driver ID in aussie.

don't get caught using it in NZ though - your vehicle will be impounded on the road side and you will probably be arrested.

you don't need an international licence for aussie.

trust it to be a pilot who comes up with the best plan of attack!

[Skyryder]

your NZ disqual has no teeth outside of NZ. apply for a copy of your licence, say the one you had was lost. give over the new copy to the baliff when he comes around.

use the previous one as driver ID in aussie.

don't get caught using it in NZ though - your vehicle will be impounded on the road side and you will probably be arrested.

you don't need an international licence for aussie.

If R6 gets pinged on this it''' cost him heaps and knowing the way the Ausssie system works probaley some 'goal' time to boot; for fraud. You have lost your Kiwi licence. On that basis you are not entitled to drive anywhere in the world.............. period. If you think that losing your licence in NZ has no teeth outside of kiwi land think again.

Skyryder

[Patrick]

your NZ disqual has no teeth outside of NZ. apply for a copy of your licence, say the one you had was lost. give over the new copy to the baliff when he comes around.

use the previous one as driver ID in aussie.

don't get caught using it in NZ though - your vehicle will be impounded on the road side and you will probably be arrested.

you don't need an international licence for aussie.

Just one slight problem... the version number will show it is not the current one...

[Karma]

You have lost your Kiwi licence. On that basis you are not entitled to drive anywhere in the world.............. period. If you think that losing your licence in NZ has no teeth outside of kiwi land think again.

Skyryder

Not for those of us lucky enough to have a licence issued in other countries

[k14]

Just one slight problem... the version number will show it is not the current one...

Yes it will, he said surrender the new licence to the bayliff. Sounds logical to me, however very very risky.

[Mark Pav]

Why not get an Australian licence in Australia. It cant be that hard can it ? except for the fact you might be subject to learner restrictions over there because you will be regarded as a " newbie "

[marty]

If R6 gets pinged on this it''' cost him heaps and knowing the way the Ausssie system works probaley some 'goal' time to boot; for fraud. You have lost your Kiwi licence. On that basis you are not entitled to drive anywhere in the world.............. period. If you think that losing your licence in NZ has no teeth outside of kiwi land think again.

Skyryder

i think you're wrong. NZ legislation generally has no legal standing in aussie, otherwise people who go to aussie could be arrested by australian police for offences committed over here, without 1. a charge being laid in a NZ court, 2. a warrant being issued for that person's arrest and 3. and extradition order being sought.

what do you base your statement on?

bottom line is you still HAVE a licence, you are just disqualified from holding or obtaining a fresh one. in NZ.

(edit)

in fact, after having a quick look at the Multilateral Agreements known to relate to the statutes administered by the Ministry of Justice, it doesn't say anything about either the Transport Act 1962, or the Land Transport Act 1998

[marty]

Just one slight problem... the version number will show it is not the current one...

i'm talking about using the 'lost' one in aussie. they have NO idea whether the one you give them is the current version or not - they have no ability to search our system - likewise we can't search theirs.

if they got snarly and serious, they would have to make the 4q's via interpol, and you'd have to have been pretty stupid for that to happen

[xwhatsit]

Talking to Dad on the phone...

When we first moved over there from NZ, he took his NZ licence. Dad used to drive `enthusiastically' in NZ, and had a bit of a shock when he found speeding was actually strictly enforced over there. He got his Australian licence early on.

What was interesting, was that he was able to rack up speeding offences on both licences, at least while the NZ one was still valid (3 month time limit or whatever it is). Not wanting to put enough demerits on his Australian licence (and get disqualified), he produced his NZ licence a few times when pulled over and still managed to carry on driving.

Clearly, as Marty says, there is no line of communication between the two databases (unless you do something really serious that requires Interpol; something even my father couldn't do).

I'd go for it.