Learner License speed limit

[carbacca]

now we all know that use learners/losers have a speed limit in place. i just picked up on a technicality here that i think i might be able to argue

LTSA website + road code states

You must not go faster than 70 km/h on the open road.

what i want to know is if say the motorways is defined as an "open road", cos as far as i know "open road" refers specifically to those roads out in the wops where theres two lanes of traffic going in opposite direction with no media barrier...

i m not sure how valid this is, anyone else have any thoughts??

[xwhatsit]

I thought this was going to be an OMG NOT THIS AGAIN thread but it's not, so that's good.

That technicality... I'm not sure, but I would be willing to bet that's one of the discrepancies between the road code and the actual law. The road code is not the law; it's sort of a colloquial-language representation of the actual road rules. So they occasionally use non-specific language. I'm pretty sure that the 70kph limit is global, and that seems to be supported by other rules relating to it (e.g. the one that says you can do 100kph in your restricted test while still on your learners).

EDIT: BDOTGNZA fan says: licence.

[Drum]

Open Road is anywhere the speed limit is >70 km/h, so no luck there I'm afraid.

Generally accepted rule (here at least) is to travel the same speed as the traffic around you.

[steved]

cos as far as i know "open road" refers specifically to those roads out in the wops where theres two lanes of traffic going in opposite direction with no media barrier...

i m not sure how valid this is, anyone else have any thoughts??

I agree with Drum. Open Road to me means anything that is not a closed or private road (track).

[Cynos]

Open Road is anywhere the speed limit is >70 km/h, so no luck there I'm afraid.

Generally accepted rule (here at least) is to travel the same speed as the traffic around you.

...Phew, I thought I'd made that one up myself. Of course, if I get stopped, I'm sure the policeman will tell me the intent of the speed limit is to keep us newbies off roads with speed limits > 70km/h.

At which point I'll ever laugh or cry, not sure which. Depends how much the fine is.

[MSTRS:Me]

...Phew, I thought I'd made that one up myself. Of course, if I get stopped, I'm sure the policeman will tell me the intent of the speed limit is to keep us newbies off roads with speed limits > 70km/h.

At which point I'll ever laugh or cry, not sure which. Depends how much the fine is.

That was part of the original intent of the rule. Impractical of course, which is why we advise ignoring it. However, do that at your own risk - if the cop is feeling nasty, it'll cost you $400

[xwhatsit]

That was part of the original intent of the rule. Impractical of course, which is why we advise ignoring it. However, do that at your own risk - if the cop is feeling nasty, it'll cost you $400

I've never heard of anybody doing that, though. But now we're venturing into ZOMG REPOST! territory.

[MSTRS:Me]

I've never heard of anybody doing that, though. But now we're venturing into ZOMG REPOST! territory.

Never heard...what? Breach of licence condition - quite common. Each one being $400. One guy here quite some time ago got pinged for something mild = $150 BUT 3 licence breaches totalling $1200 plus the $150.

[Pumba]

LTSA website + road code states

I think your question however an important issue to point out is that the two source of information mentioned above are NOT law and will NOT stand up in court if challenged.

[xwhatsit]

Never heard...what? Breach of licence condition - quite common. Each one being $400. One guy here quite some time ago got pinged for something mild = $150 BUT 3 licence breaches totalling $1200 plus the $150.

No, I meant the 70kph condition. On its own, at least.

I'm quite aware of the chances of being pinged on the other conditions, as I ride outside those conditions quite regularly and want to know how long I can get away with it.

[breakaway]

Just be sensible, travel with the flow of traffic. Surely a cop won't fine you for something this trivial?

Just go with the "TAILGATERS " story. That's what I'd do if I ever got pulled over. Because, if you do go 70KM/h on 100KM/h road, cages will do dumb shit to get around you.

[phiretrojan]

now we all know that use learners/losers have a speed limit in place. i just picked up on a technicality here that i think i might be able to argue

LTSA website + road code states



what i want to know is if say the motorways is defined as an "open road", cos as far as i know "open road" refers specifically to those roads out in the wops where theres two lanes of traffic going in opposite direction with no media barrier...

i m not sure how valid this is, anyone else have any thoughts??

i was told open road are the country type side, like example if you are going to masterton from wellington and you have to ride on the rimutakas hill that is open road,

[ZeroIndex]

On any 100kph / open road area, it is safer to just travel at 100kph... As long as you're not causing any trouble, cops will not even look twice.

You're actually causing yourself to become a hazard travelling at 70kph on an open road, due to the fact that everyone else is wanting to travel 100kph, so they're gonna sit right up your ass, and it's not a safe feeling. Just use the whole 2-second rule (4-seconds in the wet) for following traffic in open road areas and you should be sweet

[delusionz]

I travel on motorways at 100kph and cars on both my left and my right constantly blaze past me!

[FROSTY:Me]

The point is you are soposed to avoid the motorway.
I'll stand corrected but I don't know anywhere in NZ where you HAVE to use the motorway as a route from A to B
I'm not saying Im in agreement with the law --being so darn inconsistant compared to a car learner licence