Retribution and revenge

**Chisanga** · 29th May 2007, 22:03

Originally Posted by Quartermile

I'm saying that something like kicking the door with the side of your boot merly to allert the driver to your presance, or at least could be justified that way if it come down to legality issues, something I almost did recently untill the driver saw me just in time and pulled themself back onto their side of the lane.

Oh I definately agree with you there. I would kick his door as a last resort if the driver hadn't seen me just to warn him I was there.

I'm talking about retribution AFTER the incident which I don't agree with.

**Big Dave** · 29th May 2007, 22:16

Revenge = lack of self control.
There are only losers in a road rage.

**McJim** · 29th May 2007, 22:27

Originally Posted by Steam

all odds Brian Tamaki turned out to be right.

That's the best revenge.

No one as ugly as Brian Tamaki could ever possibly be right.

2 deep breaths - heartbeat back to normal and forget it - life is too short - if we all have to exact revenge it becomes much shorter. e.g. Northern Ireland, Iraq etc.

**Disco Dan** · 29th May 2007, 23:39

Originally Posted by Sanx

Earlier today, I was coming back over the Harbour Bridge. I was in the right-hand lane on one of the clip-ons. After checking mirrors, I indicated left and pulled into the left-hand lane and, as usual, sat about a foot from the centre-line. As I pulled left, there was a late-model Saab about 15 metres back travelling at the same speed as me. Nothing to worry about.

A few seconds later, I glanced in my mirror and the Saab was right up my arse. He then carried on moving forward, going between me and the crash barrier. I pulled to the right and let him go - no point in playing chicken with two tonnes of Swedish metal. it's just lucky I saw him coming as if I'd moved left within my own lane a couple of seconds before, I'd have been splattered all over the tarmac.

Now ... the question is ... what is the most suitable form of revenge and retribution?

I feel ya...

I was riding along don buck road today.. this prick in a 'builders ute' started undertaking me.. came level with my foot peg... I slowed down so I was level with driver... opened visor (tinted) and proceeded to abuse the smeg out of the driver... "what the fark do you think your doing" etc etc.. he began speeding up...laughing... I gave the bike a 'blip' and gave his vehicle a 'mirrorectomy'.

He kept his farking distance after that... what a fucktard....

**Toaster** · 30th May 2007, 10:35

Originally Posted by HDTboy

You forgot "Open his door as he drives past"

I'm not one for taking revenge, but that is a great idea. Very amusing dude.

**Arthur** · 30th May 2007, 11:19

Originally Posted by Disco Dan

I feel ya...

I was riding along don buck road today.. this prick in a 'builders ute' started undertaking me.. came level with my foot peg... I slowed down so I was level with driver... opened visor (tinted) and proceeded to abuse the smeg out of the driver... "what the fark do you think your doing" etc etc.. he began speeding up...laughing... I gave the bike a 'blip' and gave his vehicle a 'mirrorectomy'.

He kept his farking distance after that... what a fucktard....

I hear ya barkin', big dog... I hear ya barkin'...

**vifferman** · 30th May 2007, 11:25

Originally Posted by Toaster

I'm not one for taking revenge, but that is a great idea. Very amusing dude.

It needs to be a rear door, and is a better solution for lanesplitting violations rather than moving ones...

I've only "taken retribution" once, and that was whacking the wing mirror. It was amazingly unsatisfying, made me feel guilty, and paranoid about the possibility of revenge. Usually I just lean on TheButtonThatActivatesTheTripleHornsOfDoom. For a goodly long time.

I think with some people it (retribution) is the only solution or viable response, but I also think that oftentimes they have no idea they've "sinned", don't care (if it was deliberate / they're a fucktard), or it leads to escalation (particularly if they don't know they were wrong, or were deliberately bad).
Plus from a legal point of view, once you do something, it jumps into criminal offending (willful damage) rather than being a traffic offense. In this instance, the whole thing's dubious, given that you were failing to keep left (from a legal point of view; I know that from a safety point of view it was OKish).

Ask yourself too, what is your motivation? Revenge? Education? Taking the moral high ground? If revenge/retribution, then remember it's "a dish best served cold", and if done while on your bike, you need to be sure there's no possibility of retaliation (i.e., they can't get your number, chase you, etc.).

**Monsterbishi** · 30th May 2007, 12:04

Doesn't count as revenge if you were taking 'evasive action' that results in the removal of said wing mirror...

For a disturbing side note, most Euro wing mirrors are actually designed to detach in the event of a collision with a vehicle of the two wheeled variety!

**Storm** · 30th May 2007, 12:55

I'll take kick in the door or punch through the window then thanks

**1vanvan1** · 30th May 2007, 13:14

Originally Posted by Disco Dan

I feel ya...

I was riding along don buck road today.. this prick in a 'builders ute' started undertaking me.. came level with my foot peg... I slowed down so I was level with driver... opened visor (tinted) and proceeded to abuse the smeg out of the driver... "what the fark do you think your doing" etc etc.. he began speeding up...laughing... I gave the bike a 'blip' and gave his vehicle a 'mirrorectomy'.

He kept his farking distance after that... what a fucktard....

Good one ya!

I've had a few instances where i wish i could of done this but i just dont think the little vtr could get away without the bllody cager swerving into me first.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 30th May 2007, 13:19

Originally Posted by zeocen

Y
r. But people making an actual effort to suck at driving so much that they endanger everyone on the road and brush it off while talking on their phone/sipping their coffee/laughing at the near death experience and waving it off just asks for some education in traffic etiquette.

And some times, a side mirror on the ground is just enough to let it soak into their heads.

one concurs. I hate riding a motorbike in traffic now, pretty much for the reasons you describe.

**Swoop** · 30th May 2007, 13:40

Originally Posted by vifferman

you need to be sure there's no possibility of retaliation (i.e., they can't get your number, chase you, etc.).

It gets the heart going when they try and chase you though!!!!

**Griff** · 30th May 2007, 17:08

When I get a tosser attempting to hump the back of my bike with their car espescially at night. I usually drop a gear, pull to the left and check that it isn't an unmarked police car playing with me before I react.

**Scouse** · 30th May 2007, 17:53

Deep breath build a bridge and get over it

**quickbuck** · 30th May 2007, 19:04

Yep, if I was younger then options 1,2,4 &5 would have been carried out.

However I have since realised that my details are only $2 away at the local post shop, and with the sorts that live around here it is best not even to open your mouth if you get a little frustrated with some-body's driving.

So, if the incident is bad enough then let the law deal with it, otherwise life is too short to be stressed about any sort of incident that may anger you.

Just move on.
Rant about them to your mates if you want to, and get it off your chest, however it is a case of glass houses, chucking stones, etc...