The DR650 thread

**NordieBoy** · 1st February 2013, 06:24

Originally Posted by butcherboy

i must be to heavy then had it wound out the other day and maxed at 140km/hr and it struggled passed 125 to get there might need more power, whats the best way to get that apart from a new bike

Actually 15/41 should be good for 186kph at the limiter, in theory.

On sand with 15/46 gearing, I was pulling about 130kph and not getting near the limiter in top.

Sounds like yours needs looking at.

For better power/response, simplest is to pull the snorkel and raise the needle a notch.
Next is a dynojet kit and airbox top removal.
Next is an exhaust.
Next is a pumper carb.
Next is a high comp piston and webcam 223 grind cam.
Next is a 790cc conversion and webcam 160 grind.

**butcherboy** · 1st February 2013, 13:10

with it being a new bike will it free up more or is that it, i stand over 6ft and weigh in at 145kg so its the same as two up i suppose, had one of the procyle carb kits in mind dunno what sort of muffler yet.

**Buyasta** · 1st February 2013, 16:42

Originally Posted by butcherboy

with it being a new bike will it free up more or is that it, i stand over 6ft and weigh in at 145kg so its the same as two up i suppose, had one of the procyle carb kits in mind dunno what sort of muffler yet.

I'm 6ft2 and weigh 145, and while I'm not sure that it's on the stock gearing, mine got me up to about 85-90 mph indicated on the stock carb, exhaust etc.

Having said that, I've since done the airbox cut and chucked a TM40, an FMF Powerbomb header and a Marving exhaust on there, and it definitely feels and sounds a hell of a lot nicer now, although the carb needs some tuning.

I got my TM40 kit from Kientech rather than Procycle because it was a little cheaper and came with a remote choke, but in retrospect I'm wishing I'd gone with the Procycle kit and payed the extra $33 for the remote choke. The Procycle kit comes with a range of jets and a tuning manual, and while finding a PDF of a TM40 tuning manual that I assume is the same online was easy, the jets seem to be mostly out of stock with the NZ distributor, and are a bit too pricy to be able to just buy a decent range of them so you can experiment.

As far as the muffler, obviously different people have different opinions, but I will say the Marving is pretty damn nice - there's sod all info about it out there because you can only buy them in Europe, but I really wanted a muffler I didn't have to repack, and the Staintune was too pricy and the GSXR cans too hard to find. I like the way it looks and sounds, and while I'd have been willing to pay a couple hundred more for an exhaust that didn't need repacking, it was a little cheaper than importing an FMF, and a lot cheaper than buying one locally - it wound up costing me $383 including shipping from the UK, so under the GST threshold as well.

**butcherboy** · 2nd February 2013, 12:54

sounds like a good price for an exhaust whare do i get them from

**Buyasta** · 2nd February 2013, 13:00

Originally Posted by butcherboy

sounds like a good price for an exhaust whare do i get them from

www.wemoto.com

That one I've linked to is listed under the 96-03 DR section, they don't actually have one listed for later models, but I'm pretty sure that's just poor website design, and that nothing in the exhaust has changed since the new model in 96, I'm sure someone more knowledgeable about DRs than myself such as Nordieboy could confirm/correct that.

**Phreaky Phil** · 2nd February 2013, 14:23

That looks like a nice muffler and at not a bad price. You are right, there is no change from 96 to current.

**Waipukbiker** · 4th February 2013, 15:58

Just to change the subject, Fitted a new Shinko 705 on the rear, inflated to 26psi and did about 150 kms total in the day on seal, the last run was about 50 kms on the main highway and when i got home i could smell rubber, the tyre was pretty hot, checked the pressure, was showing 28psi.
This is the first time Ive fitted a new tyre on this size bike so have no experiance, if this is normal for a new tyre or not. New heavy duty tube was fitted as well.
Any comments would be welcome. The tyre is a 130 by the way.

Cheers

**NordieBoy** · 4th February 2013, 16:15

The only time I've got one hot was when it was flat and running 2 rim locks. Almost burnt my hands changing the tube.

I ran the whole DB1K last year at 20f/18r with no temp issues.

Day to day use I run about 24f/26r without excessive heating.

Does sound weird...

I do run the 120's however but that shouldn't make a difference.

**Waihou Thumper** · 4th February 2013, 16:17

Originally Posted by Waipukbiker

Just to change the subject, Fitted a new Shinko 705 on the rear, inflated to 26psi and did about 150 kms total in the day on seal, the last run was about 50 kms on the main highway and when i got home i could smell rubber, the tyre was pretty hot, checked the pressure, was showing 28psi.
This is the first time Ive fitted a new tyre on this size bike so have no experiance, if this is normal for a new tyre or not. New heavy duty tube was fitted as well.
Any comments would be welcome. The tyre is a 130 by the way.

Cheers

Maybe the road temperature influences tyre temperature of course. The sun beating down all day, mid 30's, I am sure you have a bit of conducted heat there, rather than the actual tyre overheating as a result of pressure, fitting etc?

**Waipukbiker** · 4th February 2013, 18:36

yeah, good point on the road temp, just as an example, last thursday we put a thermometer on top of a wooden post at work, the scale goes to 50, at 3 pm it was pegged. we have had major probs with tar bleeding on the secondry roads but on sat when i went out, it was a hot day but not that bad.
I will keep an eye on it, Got a ride on sat with a lot of shingle roads and farm tracks so will see how it goes.
With the 705 being a rounder profile than the EO7 was, its much nicer in the corners.

**Phreaky Phil** · 4th February 2013, 20:11

Have been looking at a tyre for our little blat around the South Island. As we will be on Tarmac for a lot of it I was thinking of a Mitas E07 or maybe a Shinko 705. I have never tried either. I just had a look at the price for the Shinko and it's way cheaper than the Mitas. Looks like they are available in a 80 and 90 profile in 130 size. Reckon the 80 might be the go.
What are your thoughts.

**NordieBoy** · 4th February 2013, 20:22

The E07 is probably more suited to 2up as the 705 has a rounder profile.

I think I'd go for a 140 section E07 myself.

Value for money, the 705 wins. Just not sure how it would go 2up.

**Ally67** · 4th February 2013, 20:23

Ahem does anyone out there have a left side passenger foot peg that they don't need, my one got broken in the Molesworth

**Phreaky Phil** · 4th February 2013, 20:30

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

The E07 is probably more suited to 2up as the 705 has a rounder profile.

I think I'd go for a 140 section E07 myself.

Value for money, the 705 wins. Just not sure how it would go 2up.

I was talking to Robin at Mitas about a 140 and he had a 140 E09 on his DR and reckons it kills the handling and will go back to a 130. Not sure what he meant by that. Have you tried a 140 ?