The DR650 thread

[NordieBoy]

Ok, change of subject to Vibranators, can you get then in NZ? Can you use them with barkbusters?

Cheers

No, yes.

Well, by "no", I mean yes.

You can get them in NZ, via Ricor in the states.
http://www.vibranator.com/

[driftinglobo]

Hi Guys,

I have been lurking for a while now so it is time to intro my self. And at the same time ask for some advice.
I have a '03 dr650 and lately it started not to start.If the bike in neut. side stand up / or down does not matter,clutch in neut light on , push start button..... and a big fat nothing.
Then if i put it to gear move it a bit then out of gear and she start as she should.
Has anybody had anything similar?
She is due for an oil change so I'm going to check the NSU screws. is there anything I should look for while in there or this starting issue is "normal"?
Thanks for the help.

Lobo.

[NordieBoy]

Doesn't sound like the clutch, stand switches or nsu.

If the neutral light is on then the NSU is in place (still needs checking and loctiting).

[driftinglobo]

Doesn't sound like the clutch, stand switches or nsu.

If the neutral light is on then the NSU is in place (still needs checking and loctiting).

So any idea?

[Mushu]

Kind of sounds like the starter solenoid, I'm pretty new to bikes myself and haven't had any starting problems yet with mine so haven't pulled out a starter yet but my old ET pulsar had the same problem (wouldn't start and the only way to get the starter to work was to put it in gear and get out and rock it back and forth a bit), I fixed it by replacing the starter motor.

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[NordieBoy]

So any idea?

Does it give a "click" from the solenoid?

Could be sticky starter motor brushes?

Waterblasted at all?

[bart]

So any idea?

Ahhhhh.....I know what it is. It’s fucked. Buy a new one.





OK, I know, not helpfull.

[Waipukbiker]

you say it works after you put it into gear then back into neutral, is this correct?

[pomgolian]

Nice one Bart

Check power at the starter when it does the problem, if there is power there its most probably the starter at fault (but could still be mechanical) if not work back to the solenoid checking power across the solenoid. Either a multimeter or test light, test lights are better to start with as they show load not just voltage.

If in doubt get an electrician to check it as fires can be very bad

[driftinglobo]

Ahhhhh.....I know what it is. It’s fucked. Buy a new one.





OK, I know, not helpfull.

Well she is the new one

And yes, after I put it into gear and move her forward a bit then out of gear she will start good.
No click, nothing, just a big fat nada, no movement, no sound, as if the kill switch were pushed in.
Thanks for all the input now it is time to go and play a bit. FUFOF (fiddle until f..k or fix)
I will let you know if I get an answer.
Cheers:
Lobo.

[Box'a'bits]

I have a BMW, not a DR, but the same principals apply.

Check / bypass the clutch lockout switch - stops you starting in gear. Sometimes there are 2 one from the gear cluster & then another from the clutch. Safety crap to stop you starting without being in neutral or having the clutch pulled in.

Check or remove the sidestand switch.

May not be the starter at all.

Got a wiring diagram?

[GSers]

I have a BMW, not a DR, but the same principals apply.

Check / bypass the clutch lockout switch - stops you starting in gear. Sometimes there are 2 one from the gear cluster & then another from the clutch. Safety crap to stop you starting without being in neutral or having the clutch pulled in.

Check or remove the sidestand switch.

May not be the starter at all.

Come on guys stop these bad work habbits. Dont start in the middle then you have 2 directions to move in. Start at one end and move forward. You have 2 circuits 1 Main Battery Supply 2 control circuit and 3 the starter itself. This can be sorted in 2 minutes deciding where the problem is. Go to starter with a test light and a jumper cable. Test light connected to a good earth on the motor. Is there power on the main battery supply? yes/no. Is there power on the solenoid power wire with side stand up or clutch or in neutral key on press starter button yes/no. Now take your jumper wire make sure bike is in neutral connect it to the main battery wire on the starter and then across to the solenoid wire. Does the starter crank the engine? yes/no
You should now have an answer to whether it 1,2 or 3
Didn't Waipuk Biker have the same issue on his bike his was fairly new.
And by the sound of it if you are in anyway moving the starter from where it has stopped and it then works it sounds like an internal starter problem ie: worn out or sticky brush's worn/burnt out winding/comutator segement.

GOOD LUCK

GSers

[pomgolian]

Yep as i said GSer check the power at the starter first & work back if no power, but it does sound like a starter problem, disconnecting or bypassing switches that are working as many DR owners are doing seems crazy to me they are there for a reason and if you have ever ridden off with the side stand down & leaned to the left you will know what i mean. Different if your off round the world and parts are hard to find.

My two peneth only

[Waipukbiker]

One easy way to check the starter is to use a single jumper lead, connect one end directly to the starter terminal then with the positive terminal on the battery exposed, push the other end fast and hard against the terminal. This bypasses the whole electrical system so if the starter works fine then you can start fault checking the rest of the electrical system.

I dont see how rocking the bike in gear is going to do anything, the starter cannot be turned by the engine because the starter clutch freewheels when turned by the engine.

[GSers]

I dont see how rocking the bike in gear is going to do anything, the starter cannot be turned by the engine because the starter clutch freewheels when turned by the engine.

Starter clutch's are sprag clutch's it only works in one direction.

GSers