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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanx View Post
    Inappropriate speed kills
    Something I think should be mentioned although it doesn't really have a great bearing on the practicalities of the issue:

    Speed doesn't kill - period. If it did every astronaut would die as soon as they made orbit (or before). The shuttle orbits at 27,000km/h with no problems. I'm travelling at 6,000km/h as I type being wipped around as the earth rotates.

    What kills is deceleration. That's why speed alone is never enough to cause injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    E. None of the above. I plan the media campaign with associated fingerpointing, manouevre for the best compensation deal I can get, and take every bit of charity that I can blag from the gullible.
    Erm ... get my unionist malcontent relatives to plan a media campaign using the death as an excuse to attack everyone in 'big business' that they can think of, and then go for compensation and charity.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Gotta be knowing stuff. Commonsense is not an exam subject.....
    True but seems commonsense ain't so good these days and with road safety you have to do an exam/test to get a licence so what's wrong with education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    ....so what's wrong with education.
    Education is all about teaching you what they want you to know. Not what you need to know.
    Take the licence thing...you are taught how to get your licence, not how to drive.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Education is all about teaching you what they want you to know. Not what you need to know.
    Take the licence thing...you are taught how to get your licence, not how to drive.
    I agree to a point but lessons helps you to drive and experience is the way to know what you need....but education is a start.

    Trubs is that whether we like it or not, education meets the needs of employers / university etc. No education = no fitting in with society.

    What we do with our roles in society is our choice.

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    6000km/h - cool

    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    I'm travelling at 6,000km/h as I type being wipped around as the earth rotates.
    So which way does the earth rotate? and if I jump on my bike and head in the same direction doing 100Km/h - that would mean my total speed would be 6100km/h - shit, I wonder if I would be able hang on at that speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    So which way does the earth rotate? and if I jump on my bike and head in the same direction doing 100Km/h - that would mean my total speed would be 6100km/h - shit, I wonder if I would be able hang on at that speed.
    To us, the sun appears to rise towards us. In actual fact (as we all know) the earth rotates towards the sun. So if you ride due east you will indeed be doing 6100km/h.

    This rotation is one theory that explains the Noah's Ark flood. The theory says that a meteor hit the earth and changed the earth's rotational speed. Since the oceans are free to move relative to the crust, when the crust slowed the oceans didn't and washed over the continents.
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    Thumbs up oh

    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    This rotation is one theory that explains the Noah's Ark flood. The theory says that a meteor hit the earth and changed the earth's rotational speed. Since the oceans are free to move relative to the crust, when the crust slowed the oceans didn't and washed over the continents.
    wow - and thought it was because it rained!
    But I guess diluvian hypothesis isn't my thing – I’m more into prediluvian palaeontological theories of lithosphere fragmentation and the recreation of the tectonic surface by catastrophic change in the asthenosphere. So I'll just have to take your word for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    wow - and thought it was because it rained!
    I suppose if the ocean was suddenly dumped on your house it could be classed as one almighty rain storm!

    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    But I guess diluvian hypothesis isn't my thing – I’m more into prediluvian palaeontological theories of lithosphere fragmentation and the recreation of the tectonic surface by catastrophic change in the asthenosphere. So I'll just have to take your word for it.
    Now, was that of the top of your head or did you fall into a encyclopedia?

    I'm not really into it either. I just seem to soak up little titbits like this and never forget them - maybe I'm an intellectual elephant? (don't always remember them right though).
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

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    Thumbs up guru of crap

    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Now, was that of the top of your head or did you fall into a encyclopedia?
    I am a self proclaimed creationist theoratrical guru.
    It was my own theory - you won't find it in an encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    I am a self proclaimed creationist theoratrical guru.
    It was my own theory - you won't find it in an encyclopedia
    I'm more into adiabatic expansion and chemical dissassociation myself. It helps me go faster; in theory. (If you get it right and all things being equal.)

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    ye ha

    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    I'm more into adiabatic expansion and chemical dissassociation myself. It helps me go faster; in theory. (If you get it right and all things being equal.)
    Now your talking dirty – how about volumetric efficiencies and pulse timing, whoar!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    I'm more into adiabatic expansion and chemical dissassociation myself. It helps me go faster; in theory. (If you get it right and all things being equal.)
    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    Now your talking dirty – how about volumetric efficiencies and pulse timing, whoar!
    Suck, squeeze, bang, blow.

    Any need to make it more complicated? Good. Didn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanx View Post
    Suck, squeeze, bang, blow.

    Any need to make it more complicated? Good. Didn't think so.
    You are talking about the infernal combustion engine? Aren't you?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Ahhh! The hairy old chestnut. Lots more of this discussion here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...=fast+and+safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff View Post
    In an ideal world, where everyone was responsible, then I'd be happy for there to be a no limit policy on motrways etc. But the fact is the roads here and the quality of driving is relatively poor compared to many other 'developed' countries'. Especially Germany.
    Certainly. We certainly need to raise the standard of driving in this country before raising the speed limits. Or do we? Perhaps the worst drivers, those who are dangerous at any speed, would simply stay off the roads that scare them because the cars are going too fast. Sounds like a great way to get the neurotic minions out of everyone elses way.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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