TL1000S vs Aprilia RSV

[BarBender]

...and I'm over travelling at ~200 on a nekid and am worried that a Tuono isn't going to be that much better.

It wont be...but the gargle of that V Twin and the efortless torque...ah...

I know its not covered in the remit of this thread but I rode a 04 Fazer a couple of weeks ago and got really turned on.....

[James Deuce]

I think my concern is that you are going from a sweetheart of a bike with no real vices to speak of and looking at going to something that requires the capacity to respond with some unusual feedback that doesn't match your input.

Some of those good riders have suffered accidents that probably shouldn't have happened too.

I guess I'm old and like my bikes trustworthy and predictable.

[skelstar]

I know its not covered in the remit of this thread but I rode a 04 Fazer a couple of weeks ago and got really turned on.....

Yep, Fazer was the fancy on thurs last week ...summised that an '05+ would be the 'go' according to Bike magazine, but I think its time I tried the sports bike route.

I wonder if that means I'm destined to buy a GSXR?

[ZeroIndex]

The black bike is a TL1000S, just an example of what you can do with one.

The attached image is of my bike.

Looks like a Buell X12 thingy / KTM SuperDuke (Front)

TLS's can't turn very well... There's a SuperBike magazine video about those, and apparently they handle like crap, unless you like crashing...

[skelstar]

Some of those good riders have suffered accidents that probably shouldn't have happened too.

Yeah I know...that had occurred to me too. *shrugs* ...not sure what to say now ...

[marty]

i started on an RS250. easy to ride. scary fast in tight corners. gotta be gentle or it'll highside ya. would arrive at whitianga (have a bach there) exhausted from having to wring its guts out, but happy.

i then had a very nicely sorted TLS - ohlins rear, ohlins damper, braided lines, yoshi pipes. sounded fantastic. loved sweeping roads. headlifting and scary when pushing it in the tight stuff. needed to be muscled around. would arrive at whitianga exhausted and counting my lucky stars that i was still alive.

upgraded to a busa. full remus system and upgraded brakes and damper. the bus was 30-50km/h faster everywhere. even in the twisties. needed serious muscling around. would arrive at whitianga drenched in sweat, with a huge grin. 1000-1500kms off a back tyre riding it like this though.

rode an RS250 again the other week. nearly flicked it trying to ride it like the bus.

if i went to a v-twin again, it wouldn't be a TL. i'd be for the Aprilia. no upgrading needed really.

[skelstar]

if i went to a v-twin again, it wouldn't be a TL. i'd be for the Aprilia. no upgrading needed really.

Cheers Marty...makes sense. I like the idea of muscling a bike around, feel like it on mine sometimes but maybe not to the same degree...

So is this an emphatic: RSV will handle better than a well sorted TLS?

[marty]

i think so - it's starting with a much better sorted chassis and background. the TL starts poorly, improving with additions, but changing rake and swing arm geometry is probably not sensible on the TL, whereas it's already done for you on the prila.

have a look at the rsv swing arm vs the tl swing arm - which one would you rather be pushing?

[Nutter34]

Hey Skel, as you know, I'm selling the Z. One of the reasons is because of the level of ease and quality the ZX10 had when riding. Now that was reason enough for me. Every one looks for different things from riding. Now, if you can live with a few characteristics, as opposed to a good ride, then go for the TL but if you are after a better quality ride, the RSV may be better... I haven't ridden either but the RSv was known to be a good package.

So, I'm in a similar position really. I only got the ZX10 because I got it for a REALLY good price. Otherwise I'd be spending money on upgrading the Z... well, maybe.

[skelstar]

have a look at the rsv swing arm vs the tl swing arm - which one would you rather be pushing?

Yeah good point..although I think the TLR swing arm (the TLS in the first pic has one I think) has the extra bracing.

Now, if you can live with a few characteristics, as opposed to a good ride, then go for the TL but if you are after a better quality ride, the RSV may be better... I haven't ridden either but the RSv was known to be a good package.

Yeah, I really want to improve my riding, and it just feels like I'm pushing the frontend of the Hornet a bit hard at the moment. It might just be in my head though...I'm not that fast. I am having ground clearance issues though...occasionally .

Its in the 140k+ sweepers I feel the most nervous at the mo.

[Deano]

I think the TL1000S could be the best sounding water-cooled v-twin ever, for some reason.

Come on Simon - better than my old SP-1 or a Duke ?

You've been riding that Gixxer for too long......it's starting to rot your brain.

[skelstar]

SP1's are coming down in price a bit. They comfy Deano?

[Lissa]

I think you should think about getting a GN250?

You looked good on mine and the entertainment value is high..... (was a good laugh anyway)
They handle great on the hill, and you can scrap ya boot.
Safe and realiable.. and plus then I could beat ya up the hill on my Bandit.
Once the baffle has fallen off they sound really grunty.
What more could you ask for.

$3200 for a brand new one.... much better than others other silly bikes you are looking at. Ok not fast, but then you did say you ARENT that fast.

[Deano]

SP1's are coming down in price a bit. They comfy Deano?

The rear seat is definitely not comfy - just ask Nikki.

You say you like muscling a bike round corners.......an SP-1 would be perfect......can be a real handful in the tight and twisties, especially if a little bumpy.

The Repsol is a breeze to ride compared to the SP-1.

[skelstar]

Ok not fast, but then you did say you ARENT that fast.

Yeah, maybe you could show me your 'lines' on the way to martinb some day girl?