Unsafe passing manouver

[_Shrek_]

just write in and say you dont accept the ticket for the allegded offence as it did not happen nor do you accept that the policemanon can go on what the truckie has to say when you had 100m clear visibility through out the hole manoever at 100kms per hr
its worth a try and you have 28 days before they send you a reminder

[slopster]

I've written my letter in and I'll just wait and see what happens

[slopster]

I got my response today the straight of a template "we have carefully considered......etc etc etc". They wont waive the offence and so I intend to take it to court. I need to write in and request a court hearing and request full disclosure. How do I do that do I just say in my letter that I'm requesting full disclosure or do I need to specify everything I want disclosed, policemans note book, witness statement etc.

[Max Preload]

I got my response today the straight of a template "we have carefully considered......etc etc etc". They wont waive the offence and so I intend to take it to court. I need to write in and request a court hearing and request full disclosure. How do I do that do I just say in my letter that I'm requesting full disclosure or do I need to specify everything I want disclosed, policemans note book, witness statement etc.

They always respond with that first - it's policy, just like insurance company policy is to initially deny your claim.

You're entitled to disclosure of anything to be used against you in the defended hearing. It'll likely be before JP's.

[Lou Girardin]

you should have told him and the truck driver to get procreating!!!! and had he insisted on giving you the ticket politely refused to accept it and be on your merry way.

And get arrested, great advice!

[Lou Girardin]

I got my response today the straight of a template "we have carefully considered......etc etc etc". They wont waive the offence and so I intend to take it to court. I need to write in and request a court hearing and request full disclosure. How do I do that do I just say in my letter that I'm requesting full disclosure or do I need to specify everything I want disclosed, policemans note book, witness statement etc.

Defend it. Do you think the truckie will lose a days pay to appear as a witness?
The cops are bluffing. I bet they'll fold when you notify them of your request for a hearing.

[boomer]

And get arrested, great advice!

it wasn't advice.. it was my opinion... had i offered advice i would have charged him

[heathen]

It's alredy been said in this thread, but in my opinion you should defend it.
I went through a similar instance a few years ago now, I was cruisin along a SH in my cage when I came up on some git doin about 35km, he was slowin down,stradling the white line and it appeared he was gettin ready to turn right into a road on the right that was about 25m away( he wasnt indicating). I slowed down a little, realised that he was turning right so just carried on past him on his left as the road was wide and was plenty of room...
A couple of days later a cop knocked on my door with a dangerous driving charge, the git in the car stated i had passed him on the left at speed, sidways in the gravel....lying prick!!!.......long story short, I denied the charge and went about takin photo's and measuring out distances in preparation to my impending court appearance, a court date was set, and the ol git wouldnt turn up to court as he didnt want his identity known.....the judge dismissed the case and all i had to pay was $50 court fees which pissed me off, why should I have to pay when I'm not guilty???
I paid the $50 and ran...... Sideways in the gravel indeed????..........it was grass!!!!!

Deny the charge!!

with a bit of luck the truckie is from Dunedin.

[Farab]

Hi Slopster, sorry to hear! This is the same rediculous shit I went to see Wayne Mapp about! Getting warnings, fines, etc in the mail, purely based on someone's hear-say. Keep us updated!

[slopster]

Update:
I've been told that the matter has been fowarded to the court haven't been given a date yet. I've been given a copy of the police file.

It says (in vebatim)
"South on SH1
Driving complaint
Re passing on bend in dip just north of Tutukau rd. Over takes truck into and around bend. Truck is A1 transporter (rego given)
Was speeding but unable to detect.

Explanation given: Saw road ahead before passing. It was clear."

Thats all that was in the file apart from copies of my own two letters to them.

Waiting for a court date now would appreciate any advice on how the hearing will be run.

[Max Preload]

There is, I guess, still the issue of you not having 100m of clear road visible throughout the entire overtaking manouvre (given it was a left hander).

[McJim]

Just serves as a timely reminder when stopped to say "Wasn't me mate - you must've seen the bike that shot past me, boy he was travelling weren't he?"

[slopster]

Couldn't deny it was me because I rode past the parked police car not more then 30 seconds after passing the truck. The left hander was gentle enough to maintin 100m vis.

[Max Preload]

Couldn't deny it was me because I rode past the parked police car not more then 30 seconds after passing the truck. The left hander was gentle enough to maintin 100m vis.

Hardly seems enough time to *555 you.

I worded that badly - you should not overtake unless you'll still have 100m of clear road once you have finished passing. Although that's completely impractical on 99% of NZ roads, especially in a car when the cunts speed up for passsing lanes when you show any signs of overtaking their 80km/h ass.

[slopster]

Hardly seems enough time to *555 you.

I didn't get pulled over there and then. The policeman pulled me over about 7-8km down the road after he'd received his complaint. I don't even know if it was a *555 or if the truckie stopped and talked to the parked policeman.