ACC calls for “greater awareness of motorcyclists”

[Griff]

with a red flag attached to it's tail eh.......

I think it is more of a brownish-Red Flag.

[Grahameeboy]

I think it is more of a brownish-Red Flag.

Indeed considering the fact that drivers ignore red anyway.....poor dog

[Max Preload]

Whats the rush....on your bike you can easily squirt into a gap and even in a car you can put your foot down so you don't interfere with traffic and merge.....works in London.....either way a gap will turn up...honest....

Sorry poor excuse.........

But the problem is the bad choice of control sign. It's also an uphill grade (minor, admittedly). Further down, on the same road, is a Give Way at a crossroad, which you cannot realistically only slow for - I find I always come to a complete stop there.

[Grahameeboy]

But the problem is the bad choice of control sign. It's also an uphill grade (minor, admittedly). Further down, on the same road, is a Give Way at a crossroad, which you cannot realistically only slow for - I find I always come to a complete stop there.

No, the problem is the bad choice of 'driving' decisions.

At end of day you drive according to conditions so cannot blame bad roads, signs etc.......

[Max Preload]

No, the problem is the bad choice of 'driving' decisions.

At end of day you drive according to conditions so cannot blame bad roads, signs etc.......

Yes, but the signs play an advisory role as much as a regulatory role. A STOP sign says "there may be hazards you're not immediately aware of" whereas GIVE WAY's are usually added to override the give way rule. On the particular road I'm referring to, they're the wrong way around - the GIVE WAY should be where the STOP is, and vice versa.

[MSTRS:Me]

Not if you're going straight through or the other vehicle is on a greater heirachy of sign (ie. they're on a stop, you're on a give way or they're on a give way and you're on nothing).

The actual rule for uncontrolled intersections is "If turning, give way to all traffic not turning. In all other situations give way to traffic crossing or approaching from your right".

Thank you. You are right. I was using the scenario to illustrate that only the turning vehicle(s) on an uncontrolled intersection would be subject to giving way.

[MSTRS:Me]

Why would a stop sign make drivers take more risks.........just the sign may make them think about checking properly so in practice what may happen is that not all drivers will actually stop but they make look properly rather than shooting up to an intersection which says 'Give Way', overshoot, either carry on and causing other car to brake or they see the other car, stop (well over the line) giving the driver a fright.

You see I think drivers here think that the 'Giveway' signs are for the other drivers, you know, the 'they should stop for me syndrome' so perhaps with a 'Stop' sign they may be more careful cause, a bit like reverse physcology, because they cannot be sure that the other driver will stop so will be more cautious.

Riiiight...put in a Stop sign in the hope that some will actually follow instructions....
Like everyone stops at red lights.
Picture this...I am hitting you with a hammer. You tell me to desist. Should I slow down or stop??
It is well past the time when the bloody traffic law policy dorks turn a major part of their focus on frikken intersection/roundabout (mis)use

[ManDownUnder]

Very cool - the signs are hard to spot and they're in bus stops around the place so...

1) Passengers getting on the bus will see them (but not be able to do anything about it - they're on a bus for God'sake... not in control of the thing)
2) Bus drivers will be straining to see it as they pull up, increasing the odds of them running over anyone between them and the curb (aka bus lanes, and the motorcyclists contained therein)
3) Car drivers will be straining to see it as they go past and drift towards the bloody things (aka bus lanes, and the motorcyclists contained therein)

And this is a good thing... HOW?????????????

[ManDownUnder]

Picture this...I am hitting you with a hammer. You tell me to desist. Should I slow down or stop??

Jesus - you threatened me last time I looked furtively at your (far more attractive) second half... I ain't trusting you with a hammer...

[MSTRS:Me]

not even a little one?

[ManDownUnder]

not even a little one?

That's what I asked her - and she said no... Something about being married?

Go figure

edit.... aaaaaaaahhhhhh... a hammer...sorry - wires crossed.

[MSTRS:Me]

Wires crossed eh? Never mind...you hold these two while I go and flick that little switch down....

[Genestho]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/stor...ectid=10445028

Check this link out^

And heres an email I sent to a reporter at the Herald tonight that has been reporting bits and pieces of my husbands murder by a drunk driver, 6 weekends ago.





And my reply...
SUBJECT:Motorcyclists bleed taxpayer but....

In 75% of the accidents the motorcyclists were not at fault?

Hello Juliet

I would like to make the following points and you can quote me if you like...

Juliet could you ask Elizabeth why the headline to that story did not reflect the story?
Obviously this Elizabeth Binning does not have the love of bikes hmmmfff, bleed? Is that because Motorcyclists are killed by motorists? Or drunk or disqualified, or unlicenced drivers and bleed? Or was it a figure of speech?
That headline will antagonise the biking community! Especially locally after the triple fatality of the motorcyclists killed at Okere Falls.

And can we ask why are the ACC levies so high for Motorcyclists when 75% of their accidents are caused by Motorists?
You cant quote a table on regional accidents if you dont also have the figures for motorcycles registered in those years as well!

Talk about misleading!!!



Im happy for you to pass on...or quote me, which ever you decide."

Jos
www.badd.co.nz

[Genestho]

Also in the Herald tonight - A letter to the editor in regards to that headline. Well written by Roger Bourne in Ellerslie. Good on ya mate!

[deanohit]

yea,I saw this article today and another similer to it earlier this week.both along similer lines and facts.good to read that the police are actually trying to do SOMETHING to try and raise awareness.please keep us updated on any replies you get to your email.very sorry to hear about your husbands death.there have been just too many deaths with motorcyclists lately.