ACC calls for “greater awareness of motorcyclists”

[Dave Lobster]

Against the law.. apparently. I had red ones on my R6. Seems that's illegal too. No pleasing some people!

[Hitcher]

No pleasing some people!

That's what Jesus said!

[Dave Lobster]

That's what Jesus said!

ACC probably wouldn't have covered his problems..

[peasea]

ACC probably wouldn't have covered his problems..

I think you're wrong there. I can't recall anyone not getting paid out for injuries sustained at a crossing.

[James Deuce]

I was not saying that......just saying that if we were made to wear a dayglow vest, it would not make riding any less enjoyable, did not say it would make us invincible.

I was saying I wouldn't ride if compelled to wear yet another piece of "safety" gear because I'm considered stupid by the people who are supposed to be our servants.

Well I wouldn't be riding in NZ anyway, because I wouldn't be living here.

[Max Preload]

If you divide $52 million by estimated number of registered motorcycles it works out at $100-120 each which is less than the actual ACC levy on Licensing fees so we more than pay for ACC to cover injured motorcyclist and I guess the residue helps pay for injured cagers too.

I've just realised we've both made the same mistake. $52M divided by 43 000 motorcyclists x 25% = $300 ea. Eeeeek!

[peasea]

I was saying I wouldn't ride if compelled to wear yet another piece of "safety" gear because I'm considered stupid by the people who are supposed to be our servants.

Well I wouldn't be riding in NZ anyway, because I wouldn't be living here.

I can't help but agree here, to a certain extent. EG; If I didn't have to, I probably wouldn't wear a helmet all the time; I think (because of the number of idiots) in the cities it's a damn good idea, and, for the most part coz of bugs and stones etc, on the highways too, but there are occasions when I like to go without. (Riding the hydro causeways down south for example, sheer brilliance lidless, bugger all traffic, great roads) I also get a bit miffed with GST being applied to compulsory safety items. If this wasn't the case many, I'm sure, would go to better equipment because they can. It's sometimes hard to juggle the cash on that fine line to be legal/safe.

[Dave Lobster]

There's something on TV3 about it in a minute.. after the adverts.

[Dave Lobster]

No useful facts. Fucking shock..

[Slingshot]

Saw this on the way home today. Sorry for low quality pic.

Is that a Magic Eye poster?

No useful facts. Fucking shock..

I recorded it...if anyone missed it and really wants to see it I'll upload it.

[Steam]

AArg, my mum just saw that Crash Test thing on the TV, called me to nag me to be careful... But I guess all awareness is good.

[MD]

Saw the TV3 story. You Auckland riders are..f@*#ed!. Take the bus.

[El Dopa]

Saw a biggish convoy of police-escorted bikes cruise past work about 12.15 today.

Looks like it was part of some publicity thing for this.

[riffer]

I've just realised we've both made the same mistake. $52M divided by 43 000 motorcyclists x 25% = $300 ea. Eeeeek!

Your maths is still dodgy.

If you're trying to say that only the 25% of crashes actually caused by motorcyclists should be assessed in terms of true costs to ACC (which is bollocks) then it would come out as:

$52,000,000 /(.25*43,000) = $4837.29 per naughty motorcyclist.

Of course, you spread the risk over all licence payers, which means the cost to ACC averaged over EVERY motorcycle licence payer is:

($52,000,000 /43,000)-$166.00 = $1043.30 per motorcyclist.

So, maybe, just maybe, we ARE costing ACC a hell of a lot more than we bring in? The cagers are subsidising us to the tune of more than a grand per motorcyclist. How many car ACC licence fees is that?

Still think they're arseholes for trying to inform the public to look out for you?

[Kinje]

Saw a short (25 second) artical on this on the TV1 news this evening. Like the headline from the Herald article mentioned earlier, the TV report was miles off the point.

They reported "a motorbikes plunge from above, today, to demonstrate the dangers of being on two wheels" and "43 motorcycle accidents have occured in blackspots around Auckland in the past five years. The crashes are reported to have cost the taxpayer nearly a million dollars".

What they completely missed was the launch of the ACC campaign about looking out for bikes and how the crash display and motorcycle convoy through Auckland were a part of the educational campaign.

Poor form