Would you give up your Thou' for an 800cc MotoGP rep?

**BIGBOSSMAN** · 22nd June 2007, 23:52

Originally Posted by Nutter34

Heavy clutch... Sore right wrist... You must have got an European or American version where the controls are swapped over...

Fuck. It sounds very blonde don't it? I must proof read my bs posts from now on. Left wrist!

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**boomer** · 23rd June 2007, 01:00

Originally Posted by imdying

Torque is only good for pulling... ditch all the thou associated lard and you'll not miss it. Twin mufflers on the GSXR1000K7 anyone

yes thanks. i decided on pig ugly rather than the femininity of a vtwin, i needed to get rid of that stigma and an sv wouldn't have helped.. now would it?!

the laziness of the thou is unreal, feels more sedate even tho you're riding faster, where as the 6 you make her scream .. so its all perception ( more noise means faster.. riiiight...??!!). the thou's dont weigh much more than a 6 now adays.. in fact the k6 thou is lighter than my old cbr6 '05.

yeah i'd own a 800cc gp replica just so i could flop my old fella on teh table

**sAsLEX** · 3rd July 2007, 05:07

Originally Posted by boomer

more noise means faster.. riiiight...??!!)

you saying a Duke on song wearing Termis is quiet?

Or a KTM Duke on Akrapovics is a quiet whisper?

**boomer** · 3rd July 2007, 07:39

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

you saying a Duke on song wearing Termis is quiet?

Or a KTM Duke on Akrapovics is a quiet whisper?

no, i'm saying my perception of speed is changed by having or not having loud pipes.

the louder they are the faster i perceive myself to be going.

**pritch** · 3rd July 2007, 08:31

Originally Posted by boomer

the louder they are the faster i perceive myself to be going.

You are not alone.

Tests were conducted on Formula 1 drivers many years ago and they all thought the noisier car was faster.

**sAsLEX** · 3rd July 2007, 08:40

Originally Posted by pritch008

You are not alone.

Tests were conducted on Formula 1 drivers many years ago and they all thought the noisier car was faster.

The higher pitch might have something to do with it, doppler and all that good stuff!

I know Joe Public and the police seem to base some of their speed guestimates on sound levels.

MD · 3rd July 2007, 10:26

I'm way ahead of you. Already switched to the 800 class! Oh, sorry, he said MotoGP 800 replicas for the road. Well they don't exist ..yet. But when they do come out, and I think they will in 2 or 3 more years, they will be awesome and I for one will be at the front of the queue.
All I really want is a bigger ZXR 636 but not a thou. The 636 motor produced damn good torque.
Personally the 1000s do nothing for me. Like what Big Dave was harping on about, all that power and no where to unleash it, or even taste it.

**R1madness** · 3rd July 2007, 10:40

I have a Japaneese bike mag that shows the NEW VFR800 RC212V replica due out 2009. If honda are looking into it you can bet that the others will not be far behind.

**R1madness** · 3rd July 2007, 10:52

Originally Posted by R6_kid

There was a write up about Virgin Yamaha in BSB testing their 05 R1 in a 'big bang' setup, it can be done if you want but it costs $$$

It is not that hard to make a 4 cylinder into a big bang motor, You only need to get new cams made that phase the cam timing correctly. Everything else is fine. No changes to electronics needed initally, only some fine tuning.

Fun fun fun.

**Gremlin** · 3rd July 2007, 23:36

After my zx7r, I would have loved a 750/800... The only one was the gsxr750, and for a thousand more, you got the killer torque of the thou... It makes the 750 a rip off.

Torque is good for road riding, thous are mental for trying to keep your license...

No-one neeeeeds a thou, but when you can keep up with/be faster than the 600, you're doing better, as you have more to keep under control

Thous have the grin factor... you feel good all the time... just because... its a 1 litre bike!!

**pritch** · 4th July 2007, 10:21

Originally Posted by R1madness

I have a Japaneese bike mag that shows the NEW VFR800 RC212V replica due out 2009. If honda are looking into it you can bet that the others will not be far behind.

Well, I wouldn't bet too much on that. They are over twenty years behind so far. And counting....

**imdying** · 4th July 2007, 10:34

Originally Posted by pritch008

Well, I wouldn't bet too much on that. They are over twenty years behind so far. And counting....

Sorry I don't understand, who are behind what?

**BIGBOSSMAN** · 5th July 2007, 23:30

http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/News/2007_Kawasaki.htm

**imdying** · 6th July 2007, 08:07

R&R are most famous for being totally full of shite, I wouldn't put any faith into anything that comes from that site.

**slowpoke** · 6th July 2007, 12:39

The key word here is "REPLICA".
Very few of us are prepared to pay anywhere near the dosh to buy something remotely close to a MotoGP bike. We had the chance with the Ducati and not too many of us signed up or would sign up if they made another 5000 of the things.
We just aren't prepared to pay for sandcast magnesium engine cases, machined from billet alloy frames, titanium con rods, carbon fibre self supporting pillion-less seats, magnesium rims, engine life spans that are meausured in hours, engine management that has enough computing power to launch a space shuttle etc etc.
If you dumb the package down to something useable at an affordable price you just get what we've already got. That's how we arrived at the current configuration. It's cheaper to cast/machine one four cylinder cylinder head than it is to cast/machine 2 2 cylinder heads for the V4's, same goes for camshafts etc.
We can already fit aftermarket equipment to rival MotoGP (magnesium rims, engine management systems, carbon fibre bodywork, billet alloy whatever etc etc) and/or screw +200hp out of our sportsbikes yet very few of us choose to do so, so why are we kidding ourselves that we'd leap out and buy one of these things at an exhorbitant cost.
So all we are left with is a styling exercise......