New Buell.

[tri boy]

You said rake

DOH!

[oldrider]

With full respect to other peoples rides, Harley's have never really done it for me personally but what Buell does with the basic material really catches my attention.

I enjoyed the video of the new sports bike and thought it must be another interesting option for sports biker riders, surely!

I also wondered what sort of final drive it has but didn't see that in any of the writing as I speed read across the info, did anyone catch that bit?

The Buell Ulysses fascinates me, I had a look at a couple over the last week, have read Big Dave's write-ups and read an article by "Graham Allerdice" in last months "Bike Rider" mag.

If my specific Tiger was not such a bargain buy dollar wise, and I was looking at the new (07) Tiger and the Buell, I would definitely be taking a second , third and fourth look at the complete Buell Ulysses package.

It is far from perfect but I find every bike I have ever owned has had to be honed out and adjusted to fit my own requirements!

There is just something about the Buell Ulysses that says to me, "YES"! Nice one Buell. Cheers John.

[Big Dave]

New on Ulysses XB12X for 2008

New 47mm front forks replace the previous 43 mm forks. Secured with a new triple clamp design, this new front end improves the torsional rigidity of the entire chassis. Fork flex is reduced during hard braking for improved stability and feedback.

Steering sweep lock-to-lock is increased to 74 degrees from 54 degrees to reduce the turning radius in off-road low-speed maneuvers. New off-set triple clamps maintain the 23.5 degree rake and 4.8 inch trail.

Heated hand grips are now standard equipment on the 2008 Ulysses. The grips are rated at 18 watts per side on the High setting and 11 watts per side on the Low setting.

New air guides positioned on the tail section of the Ulysses deflect engine heat away from the rider’s legs.

Modifications to the 1203 Thunderstorm V-Twin engine enhance performance, reduce maintenance, and allow a new redline of 7100 rpm (see separate Thunderstorm release for details).

The instrument panel styling is refreshed and the tachometer reflects the new 7100-rpm redline.

For 2008, the following changes have been made to both the Thunderstorm 1203 and the Thunderstorm 984:

New Timing System
* The timer cover is eliminated, as the engine is now crank timed from a new crank position sensor, which eliminates the need for manual timing, reducing maintenance costs. The ECM actively monitors and adjusts timing based on driving environment. The new sensor makes 30 reads per revolution, compared to the previous two reads per revolution, for more precise control of fuel mapping and timing to conditions.

More Robust Crankpins
* The size of the crankpins is increased to 1.50 inches from 1.25 inches.

Oiling System Upgraded
* A higher-output oil pump supports oiling to the new crankpin area. The new pump is driven off of the crank, a design based on the Buell XBRR production racing motorcycle.

* A new eight-row oil cooler offers enhanced cooling performance.

* All oil line ends are now equipped with Jiffy-tite fittings.

New DDFI 3 ECM (Engine Control Module)
* A new ECM with increased computing capacity.

* DDFI 3 actively controls and monitors the TPS (throttle position sensor), IAC (idle air control), and timing. DDFI 3 automatically zeros the TPS and adjusts fuel metering for smoother idle, eliminating service intervals and reducing the cost of ownership.

* A new progressive throttle cam and new throttle cables provide smoother throttle input from stops, and less rotation to full throttle.

[Rashika]

That's because like Ducati, the rest of the world is starting to realise that the Japanese have got it right.

bollocks....

[Big Dave]

That's because like Ducati, the rest of the world is starting to realise that the Japanese have got it right.

It matters of style there is no wrong or right - there is just what you like.
I prefer European and American design. That doesn't mean i think the japanese are wrong.

[imdying]

It matters of style there is no wrong or right - there is just what you like.
I prefer European and American design. That doesn't mean i think the japanese are wrong.

Just getting a rise out of Rashika

[Qkchk:Me]

Since no-one has put it up yet.............

LINK TO BUELLS 1125R WEBSITE

[dangerous]

BLOODY HORRID Well the arse end is un changed at a glance, so thats still not bad... the fairing is off an R1 just aint right, why not keep with the twin eye balls but behind one lense, the fairing looks like its perched on a step ladder... the exhaust, well it looks cheap, tinny and dull...the radiator/airbox intacks are farking disgusting, and most of all... its not going to feel like a buell, shove ya HP... Buell is about torque, the feel and sound of the slow reving nuggety old push rod thumper will be gone, as will the smile a Buell puts on ya face when being ridden... those that have one will only know what I am saying Buell

[Big Dave]

I am saying Buell

Wake up! - this doesn't replace anything - just added to the range - sqidley will love it.

The Thunderstorm engine is retained and improved.

[justsomeguy]

NO!!!!!!!!

What the hell have they done........Buell's looked like nothing on the planet - they were unique.

Now they look like crashed R1's........

[Big Dave]

see post 39.

[oldrider]

BLOODY HORRID Well the arse end is un changed at a glance, so thats still not bad... the fairing is off an R1 just aint right, why not keep with the twin eye balls but behind one lense, the fairing looks like its perched on a step ladder... the exhaust, well it looks cheap, tinny and dull...the radiator/airbox intacks are farking disgusting, and most of all... its not going to feel like a buell, shove ya HP... Buell is about torque, the feel and sound of the slow reving nuggety old push rod thumper will be gone, as will the smile a Buell puts on ya face when being ridden... those that have one will only know what I am saying Buell

Does this mean you might not be be buying one then dangerous? (lol) John.

[Rashika]

Wake up! - this doesn't replace anything - just added to the range - sqidley will love it.

The Thunderstorm engine is retained and improved.

ahhh good... phew

Does this mean you might not be be buying one then dangerous? (lol) John.

what does he need to buy a Buell for, he already has one to use anytime he wants...

[dangerous]

Wake up! - this doesn't replace anything - just added to the range - sqidley will love it.

The Thunderstorm engine is retained and improved.

HUH, aye what, ha... whos there, I reckon they would have been beter off putting the RR on the road, this new thing looks to much like a 12R, and there nothing Harly about it... Austrain engine, Itiallian made frame etc, a good idea but it shouldnt have a 12R arse end.

[JimBob]

Looks good.
IMHO the front scoops look a little overstyled, a couple of giant pipi shells.
I wonder if the RR is still going to exist? As a development bike the RR has probably shown that if you want to manufacture a 150hp streetbike dont base it around a Sportster engine.
So the smart move was go and get an engine designed for the job.
As for the VRod engine, that is a Huge lump. Way too big for a sport type bike. But it can be made a lot bigger cc wise so as it becomes more accepted as a Harley engine see a big cube Vrod engine being offered in the FX and FL bikes. So when Harley really have to go watercooled it wont hurt the true blue traditional HD riders too much. They will lose the 'potato potato' but they will gain 'pumpkin pumpkin' so all is not lost.