Attitude readjustment

[Katman]

Motorcycling needs to lose the "it's us against the world" mentality - that's what encourages the Skidmarks of our society. Comments like "above all else he's a biker and a brother" are better off on the big screen in some cheesy Wild Ones remake. People need to stop and realise Motorcycling is just a common interest we have - it's not a bond that binds us.

[FROSTY:Me]

Dude I dunno what crawled up your ass years ago or who pissed you off but perhaps you should just not bother posting instead of posting your negative crap.
I could not dissagree with you more

[oldrider]

Not sure that I am reading you the way you intended but as far as I am concerned, it is me against the rest of the world, when I am on my bike!

It is that mentality that has kept me alive!

As far as I am concerned, every other thing that moves out there is trying to kill me and if I neglect to be aware of them, for even a moment, they will succeed!

Not quite paranoid but not too far off it either!

I feel I share that with all the other motorcyclists out there on the road.

Us and them? Absolutely! Cheers John.

PS: I am happy to stand beside SkidMark and tell the world, he's with me!

[Grahameeboy]

Mmmmm.
160 Post.....8 Top Five Positives and 17 Top 5 Negatives.
Always good to start on the good foot I say.

[Swoop]

I think it is just a ploy to beat Mental Trousers to the "King of red rep" award...

[Sniper]

Motorcycling needs to lose the "it's us against the world" mentality - that's what encourages the Skidmarks of our society. Comments like "above all else he's a biker and a brother" are better off on the big screen in some cheesy Wild Ones remake. People need to stop and realise Motorcycling is just a common interest we have - it's not a bond that binds us.

My mum always said, if you have nothing positive to say, don't bother saying anything.

I never listened to her until a year or so ago. Dude, you have to realise that sharing your opinion is great, but some folk do feel different to what you think about a situation. IE: I feel more comfortable going up and chatting to someone with a bike than chatting to someone with a good looking car. Maybe thats what some folk mean?

I can see your point, but can you stop and see others?

[tri boy]

My mum always said, if you have nothing positive to say, don't bother saying anything.

Wasn't that Bambi's mother?.....Oh my god, a computer savvy Fawn.
(goes to get rifle, mmmm Venison).

[Sniper]

My mum always said, if you have nothing positive to say, don't bother saying anything.

Wasn't that Bambi's mother?.....Oh my god, a computer savvy Fawn.
(goes to get rifle, mmmm Venison).

I never watched bambi, I have eaten him though

[Crisis management]

Mmmmm.
160 Post.....8 Top Five Positives and 17 Top 5 Negatives.
Always good to start on the good foot I say.

Bit sanctimonious aren't we? And that goes for a few of the other posts too....

He's entitled to his opinion and I feel it's not a bad one, there are certainly a few people on line I have no intention of meeting.
Trying to excuse peoples bad behaviour simply because they have a similar interest to me is not acceptable, an idiot is an idiot regardless of whether they drive a cage or ride a bike, I don't want them anywhere near me.

So Katman, I'm with you, fuckwits of the world unite...somewhere a long way from me please!

[James Deuce]

Not only does katman have a good point, we need to stop squelching the discussion that arises every time somebody has a fatal or near fatal "learning experience".

Common interests do make it easier to make friends with someone, often lifelong friends but motorcycling isn't a band of brotherhood.

[karmakillernz]

Motorcycling needs to lose the "it's us against the world" mentality - that's what encourages the Skidmarks of our society. Comments like "above all else he's a biker and a brother" are better off on the big screen in some cheesy Wild Ones remake. People need to stop and realise Motorcycling is just a common interest we have - it's not a bond that binds us.

You'll find this sort of thing in most groups of people that have something in common. It has nothing to do with superiority. For example,

• families look out for their own first
• police look out for their own first
• bikers look out for their own first

In-fact, this was one of the reasons I was attracted to riding - the friendly attitude and acceptance towards other bikers, regardless of who they are. If you don't like it, that's fine, be a mean SOB to any biker you see. But there's no need to get hostile when others want to stick by a fellow biker.

[MSTRS:Me]

My mum always said, if you have nothing positive to say, don't bother saying anything.

Wasn't that Bambi's mother?.....Oh my god, a computer savvy Fawn.
(goes to get rifle, mmmm Venison).

I seem to remember that quote as being "If you can't say nothing nice, then don't say nothing at all" - Peter Rabbit
Different generations - same message?
As to Katman - observe the biker community and you will see that you are out of step with most of us.

[delusionz]

I'd rather call for this thread to be frozen or deleted. Katman I just read your last 5 pages of posts and atleast half of them attack skidmark or bikers in general. If you don't want to be apart of it I'd happily trade your able body for my shattered wreck as I would love to jump back on right now. Give Skidmark a chance, he has expressed interest in trying to change his ways, Do you want him to just forget about it? Nobody is going to change their ways when the people they look up to are seen to be attacking them...

[ceebie13]

Fifteen all!!

[Hitcher]

Feeling concern for the health and welfare of fellow bikers who have been injured or worse is understandable. There for the grace of god go I, and all that sort of thing.

But something that is a bit irksome and tiresome are the "grieving" threads that we seem to delight in on KB, where the only comments that some folk think are allowable are the "Omigod, how terrible! Hope you're feeling better soon," or "RIP, fellow biker", kind of thing.

And, in typical lynch-mob style, things get very ugly if somebody posts something that stands out from the herd, whether it is "inappropriate" or not.

A question that needs to be asked is whether fair comment is allowed on KB, or are we all about conforming to norms that are implied rather than stated?

I think that Katman has raised an issue that's worthy of reasoned, intelligent discussion. Members who aren't up to that task should focus their vitriol elsewhere.