huh?
You give a dictionary quote for an accident as being 'unexpected' yet claim being stoned and speeding and crashing as being an accident also.
What? you expect not to crash in these conditions? Rational indeed.
I don't want to appear patronising but come to me when someone you give a shit about is at the recieving end of such an 'accident'.
Your bravado and indifference to life may be shortlived when mummy gets run over, but hey, he didn't mean to hit her did he?
Of course it does. I'd hate to be so desperate to be accepted that I'd just go along with anything to gain the adoration of my peers.
My friends have strong opinions too and although we often differ it beats the hell out of just nodding in agreement on everything - try it some time - break out of your comfort zone - have your thoughts challenged. If you have the guts. You'll be a bigger man for doing so.
If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!
Where did bravado and indifference come into it? I never said any of those things wasn't stupid, dangerous or wrong, just that if it wasn't intentional then it was an accident.
However In the process of preparing to quote the definition back at you, I realise I misread it to be how I'd always understood it, not what was actually there. I thought it only required lack of intent, not unexpedtedness as well. I apologise for that, to all concerned.
There would still be room for debate on how predictable or expected an incident is, though - and my second example is probably predictable enough, even by the stoned driver concerned (not that I've ever been stoned) to be not an accident by the dictionary definition.
I'm also not sure whether it would have to be predictable (ie expected) by the perpetrator in particular.
Richard
I can relax all weekend with the pleasant thought that our village does not have a traffic light, and we even defeated the council on the installation of parking meters, although we got a $20 rate increase to cover this.
To get rid of the idea's that people here are just saying things to be popular and all that crap, I'm not.
SWBarnett, you always post crap up then retact and disagree with yourself to the point where I wonder what the crap your actually talking about? do you have an opinion or just a whole bunch of disagreement you need to use before it's expiry date? I'll give you $20 if you tell the next cop that pulls you over that they work for you. Please do it! Dickhead.
Ritchard, it's not an accident. I hate that shit and put your dictionary down. What I'm talking about is whether it was accidental, you were trying to avoid the situation or not. Neglegence, failure to pay the due attention etc doesn't cause an accident. It causes you to crash into someone. You need to stop thinking that there are two people in an accident. NO! there is typically someone that crashed into the other/s.
I've read so many of these other guys (Scummy etc) posts and they have formed opinions based on real world experience and they are consistent and have been for years. You guys can't be consistent from one sentence to the next! Please (and I'm not being a dick, I reccomend you do this) volunteer with a Ambo or Towie or someone, go to a serious crash and then sit down once it's sunk in and cry. Honestly.
That isn't a tenth of what I have to say but I'm soooo over this.
I'm selling my new riding gear!! Only worn a few times get a deal Kiwibikers!!
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