The time has come!!!

[MSTRS:Me]

Mmmmm...OnRoad Napier know nothing about this imminent change. They apply the subjective ear test - "I passed that last time? Oh well, I had an argument with my wife this morning and I'm in a bad mood. I'm failing that for being too loud" Or whatever.
So I went to see the only LVV compliancer in Napier, who told me...
"They tried that a while back for the boi-racer zorsts. Too confusing, loaded with anomolies, dropped the whole thing after a month or so. Sheesh, I have used my decibel meter once and that was to check my standard ex-factory Commodore V8 and it failed. It's a fucking joke. My advice is don't worry about it. If it's brought in, it will be rescinded very quickly."

[Clivoris]

Mate here had his old standard can of his RSVR so have done the $$ deal & brought it off him . Will try with the Race pipe first to see how things go at Testing Station if they start to play funny buggers then I'll put to Barzoker can on .

I still have my standard exhaust in storage but I have a full system. Getting that on and off generally involves several beers, at least two skinned knuckles and a four year old asking me why I've thrown my ratchet through the interior lining of the garage...again.
How can anyone find my Renegades offensive? I find the gentle massage of my kidneys rather relaxing. Surely I can bribe someone for a WOF?

[Conquiztador]

Mmmmm...OnRoad Napier know nothing about this imminent change. They apply the subjective ear test - "I passed that last time? Oh well, I had an argument with my wife this morning and I'm in a bad mood. I'm failing that for being too loud" Or whatever.
So I went to see the only LVV compliancer in Napier, who told me...
"They tried that a while back for the boi-racer zorsts. Too confusing, loaded with anomolies, dropped the whole thing after a month or so. Sheesh, I have used my decibel meter once and that was to check my standard ex-factory Commodore V8 and it failed. It's a fucking joke. My advice is don't worry about it. If it's brought in, it will be rescinded very quickly."

Got same messages. Sounds like it is all bull. (Hey, did someone already smell this??)

[pritch]

New Plymouth Motorcycles is the shop which declined the WOF .

Scott

WTF was your mate doing at New Plymouth Motorcycles anyway? Some of the staff don't seem too bright. One was quoted as telling other motor trade people that the Suzuki agency was a great one to have because Suzukis kept breaking down, the workshop had never been so busy.

The sales staff would love that.

I was recommended to use Pauls Motorsave Services, 16 Constance Street, for warrants. He is good to deal with but last time I saw him I didn't have a set of Arrow cans. I hope he's good next time too...

[Sensei]

Yea I know of Paul & he may well be getting alot more bike warrant work I can see .

[rwh]

I found the relevant page after a bit of searching LTSAs site. It describes the requirements as they stand at the moment. The BUT is that sometime in the next few weeks, that rule will be replaced, meaning all who have aftermarket pipes will have to get a LVV cert. $$

Got a reference for that?

Richard

[rwh]

New Plymouth Motorcycles is the shop which declined the WOF . They just want Factory systems ! That way they don't get into a argument over what is & what isn't acceptable plain & simple . Have Standard pipe jacked up now so will take bike into LTS Wof station next week & see what happens with the Very loud Akrapovic pipe on .

No argument? They're not allowed to make up rules to suit themselves. If they're enforcing rules that don't exist, dob them in to the appropriate authorities.

Richard

[MSTRS:Me]

Got a reference for that?

Richard

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/certifiers/v...eral-11-v3.pdf

[rwh]

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/certifiers/v...eral-11-v3.pdf

I think that's a) the old rules and b) for other than motorcycles?

Certainly there's nothing in there requiring OEM exhausts.

I was a bit worried when I saw the stuff about exhausts on the left hand side of the vehicle, but that seems to be just for heavy/light passenger service vehicles.

What I want to see is something concrete relating to these supposed new rules requiring OEM exhausts only.

Richard

[MSTRS:Me]

Of course it's the old rule....the 'new' is not in place yet. This is what I have been sent that covers this so-called new rule...
The rules are about to change. The shop is just getting in a bit early.

The Vehicle Equipment Amendment Rule (2007) to be released very shortly (like maybe a couple of weeks) changes the law.

In effect, if you have a non-standard exhaust you will have to get a Low Volume Certificate


---Quote (Originally by TheRule)---
Section 3 Modification and repair
3.1 Modification

Clause 3.1 is amended by inserting the following subclauses after 3.1(1):

* "3.1(1A) Subject to 3.1(1B), if a light motor vehicle in Schedule 3 is modified so as to increase the vehicle's exhaust noise output, *the exhaust system must be certified* under the Low Volume Vehicle Code in accordance with Land Transport Rule: Vehicle Standards Compliance 2002.
* "3.1(1B) Subclause 3.1(1A) does not apply if the vehicle's increased exhaust noise output is clearly below the maximum decibel level specified in Schedule 3."
---End Quote---

[rwh]

Of course it's the old rule....the 'new' is not in place yet. This is what I have been sent that covers this so-called new rule...
The rules are about to change. The shop is just getting in a bit early.

The Vehicle Equipment Amendment Rule (2007) to be released very shortly (like maybe a couple of weeks) changes the law.

In effect, if you have a non-standard exhaust you will have to get a Low Volume Certificate


---Quote (Originally by TheRule)---
Section 3 Modification and repair
3.1 Modification

Clause 3.1 is amended by inserting the following subclauses after 3.1(1):

* "3.1(1A) Subject to 3.1(1B), if a light motor vehicle in Schedule 3 is modified so as to increase the vehicle's exhaust noise output, *the exhaust system must be certified* under the Low Volume Vehicle Code in accordance with Land Transport Rule: Vehicle Standards Compliance 2002.
* "3.1(1B) Subclause 3.1(1A) does not apply if the vehicle's increased exhaust noise output is clearly below the maximum decibel level specified in Schedule 3."
---End Quote---

Only a problem if it "is modified so as to increase the vehicle's exhaust noise output".

ie more or less what we have already - except the bit allowing for a maximum decibel level, so you're allowed to make a very quiet bike a bit noisier.

Richard

[MSTRS:Me]

Only a problem if it "is modified so as to increase the vehicle's exhaust noise output".

ie more or less what we have already - except the bit allowing for a maximum decibel level, so you're allowed to make a very quiet bike a bit noisier.

Richard

If brought in, it will still be a can of worms as I said earlier, as what constitutes 'too loud' will still be subjective according to the LVV guy I spoke to.
Clause 3.1 is amended by inserting the following subclauses after 3.1(1):

* "3.1(1A) Subject to 3.1(1B), if a light motor vehicle in Schedule 3 is modified so as to increase the vehicle's exhaust noise output, *the exhaust system must be certified* under the Low Volume Vehicle Code in accordance with Land Transport Rule: Vehicle Standards Compliance 2002.
* "3.1(1B) Subclause 3.1(1A) does not apply if the vehicle's increased exhaust noise output is clearly below the maximum decibel level specified in Schedule 3."
If a standard V8 Commodore fails the decibel reading there is no hope of any bike passing.

[Grahameeboy]

If brought in, it will still be a can of worms as I said earlier, as what constitutes 'too loud' will still be subjective according to the LVV guy I spoke to.
Clause 3.1 is amended by inserting the following subclauses after 3.1(1):

* "3.1(1A) Subject to 3.1(1B), if a light motor vehicle in Schedule 3 is modified so as to increase the vehicle's exhaust noise output, *the exhaust system must be certified* under the Low Volume Vehicle Code in accordance with Land Transport Rule: Vehicle Standards Compliance 2002.
* "3.1(1B) Subclause 3.1(1A) does not apply if the vehicle's increased exhaust noise output is clearly below the maximum decibel level specified in Schedule 3."
If a standard V8 Commodore fails the decibel reading there is no hope of any bike passing.

In Engleesh pleesey

[MSTRS:Me]

In Engleesh pleesey

You Poms - can't understand your own langwidge.

*Sigh*...

If you change your exhaust to make it louder, you must get a Low Volume Vehicle Tester to certify that the result is with acceptable limits. Unless the loudness is insignificantly more than the factory original.

At this point, sanity takes a look at the official expectations and says, fuck off, that's not realistic.

Clear enough?

[Grahameeboy]

You Poms - can't understand your own langwidge.

*Sigh*...

If you change your exhaust to make it louder, you must get a Low Volume Vehicle Tester to certify that the result is with acceptable limits. Unless the loudness is insignificantly more than the factory original.

At this point, sanity takes a look at the official expectations and says, fuck off, that's not realistic.

Clear enough?

I understand 40 dialects, speak 2 of them.......and I can understand Asians....called "Patience".

I have an EU certificate with my Exhaust but with said baffles inserted it is only 2 db higher...........I know that is higher than it sounds but it is about same as the standard...............