I'm a grave menace to society

[scumdog]

So what did you do him for? Excessive reading on the moronometer?

Dangerous driving.

[RantyDave]

When the Govt allows licences to be handed out like Toffee-pops (and to those as young as 15)

This is definitely a problem and something needs to be done. I don't understand why bikers are limited to a 250 for a year (or two) yet it seems OK for a 16 year old to have a 300Hp cage. I say raise the driving age to 18 except scooters, bikes, quads and other farm machinery.

Dave

[Edbear]

who the hell has a spare 10 or 20 BDA Escorts in NZ??????????

SHudder to think what they're worth these days, too...!

Just had a thought! Those who remember following the BDA's on the rally circuit are showing their age...

I bet many on this forum wouldn't know what a BDA Escort was! Mention Skyline or Cefiro or 180/200SX and most would know immediately...

[Grahameeboy]

What's this shit of answering a question with another question?

Are you a lawyer or (shudder) a politician or something??

Haven't written out a speeding ticket for two weeks or more now so I'm not sure where 'the current focus' bit comes from - well not down here, that's for sure.

To be fair you have not answered the question though. But guess indirectly if you are saying you have not issued a ticket in two weeks or more that you side with the view that speeding is not a major factor in accidents??

[MSTRS:Me]

Dangerous driving.

Good call.

[MSTRS:Me]

To be fair you have not answered the question though. But guess indirectly if you are saying you have not issued a ticket in two weeks or more that you side with the view that speeding is not a major factor in accidents??

According to SD, he is a 'sensible' cop.
But it may be that Southlanders go about their roads in fear of his reputation/zealous ticketing of any speed infringement and therefore seldom cross that line....

[scumdog]

To be fair you have not answered the question though. But guess indirectly if you are saying you have not issued a ticket in two weeks or more that you side with the view that speeding is not a major factor in accidents??

OK, speed is a factor.
Like having a breath alcohol level of over 400. (It seems like a shitload of Aucklanders had that last weekend judging by the news.)

No tickets of any sort - too short handed, doing 'real' Police work that all the whingers seem to think gets overlooked.

[Swoop]

When the Govt allows licences to be handed out like Toffee-pops (and to those as young as 15) and does not have serious consequences for bad driving we are going to have to put up with the standard of driving we have in NZ.

Also, those "15 yr olds" have had years of responsible driving practice on their X-Station Playbox...

[Grahameeboy]

Agreed, they teach kids to pass the test, but they forget to actually teach them to drive properly and defensively.

But to be honest driving is hardly difficult and driving is basically commonsense.

I cannot see the rear bumper - I am following too close
The Traffic Lights show Amber - I should consider stopping
I want to emerge from an interesection - Is it safe to pull in front of traffic.
Speed of vehicle - Are they passing static objects quickly
I am 3 cars back following a slow vehicle and want to pass - Maybe I should wait for cars in front of me to pass 1st as they may pull out as I overtake.
etc.

Or I will just blame Asian drivers...........cause that is easy isn't it?

[NordieBoy]

SHudder to think what they're worth these days, too...!

Just had a thought! Those who remember following the BDA's on the rally circuit are showing their age...

They were on TV just the other week.
Still out there racing and... cornering...

[scumdog]

Use the moronalyser!!!!

Ah, you modern hi-tech types!

I always use a stupidometer.

[NordieBoy]

I really do disagree. Poor driving skill is the number one factor in the road toll.

Speed is the easiest to prove and enforce.

I would have thought that crashes would be the #1.
Ban crashing.
Problem solved.
Next...

[scumdog]

But to be honest driving is hardly difficult and driving is basically commonsense.

Ah, therein lies the flaw in your argument - common sense ain't common.

[jonbuoy]

112 on an empty road -shooting fish in a barrel. It pisses people off because in those circumstances its not dangerous - I see more dangerous driving every day at low speeds in rush hour. 100KPH is the legal limit - but why do they have to be so anal about it? Its unbelievable that you can get ticketed for that but not jabbering distractedly on your cellphone at 99KMH. Surely its their discretion if they ticket you or not.

Tailgaiting, not reading the road not indicating, running red lights is way more dangerous. How about we see some unmarked cop cars at those intersections where the red light runners are prevelant? Easy money for them, increase road safety and gets brownie points with the public.

[Grahameeboy]

OK, speed is a factor.
Like having a breath alcohol level of over 400. (It seems like a shitload of Aucklanders had that last weekend judging by the news.)

No tickets of any sort - too short handed, doing 'real' Police work that all the whingers seem to think gets overlooked.

Cool...

Speeding is a factor in 33% of accidents - The 67% were not moving at time

Alcohol is a factor in 33% of accidents - The rest were sober

Well cars get along by velocity so speed will always be a factor.

In the UK the Police accept that real 'speed' related accidents only amount to 4% of accidents. They often include the following in stats:

- I could not stop because I was going to fast - Not concentrating
- I pulled out but the other car was going to fast - Not looking properly