Motorway Patrol (24 July)

**WarlockNZ** · 24th July 2007, 23:57

Originally Posted by Tom

i said that if you were walking in a public place they cldnt ask shit from you earlier read up top

Bugger ... must have missed that one ... LOL

**moT** · 25th July 2007, 00:03

you can infact if you get pulled over randomly and fail the first breath test (cant be used as evidence in court) they will then ask you to do the second breath test the bag (refuse to do that one and demand a blood test) they cant do you for anything as you are requesting a blood test. they then have to take you to the station (where you are sobering up the whole time if you are drunk which you shouldnt be) get a qualified person to do it refuse to give one without a quallied person but then demand to talk to a lawyer (if you can get hold of one that time of night) refuse to give a blood test til you get a lawyer (which is provided for free) (convince him to come down to the station) refuse to give a blood test until you have consulted the lawyer once he has arrived and you have consulted him then give the blood test these are your rights

**moT** · 25th July 2007, 00:10

im acually not to sure about requesting to see the lawyer in private the police may be able to deny you of this if you are pissing the evidence away ill find out tho

**James Deuce** · 25th July 2007, 00:11

What was the topic again?

**moT** · 25th July 2007, 00:12

Originally Posted by Jim2

What was the topic again?

forgot i think it kinda got side tracked

**moT** · 25th July 2007, 00:24

i believe the guy on the vespa is innocent and should of not been given that ticket

**HungusMaximist** · 25th July 2007, 00:30

Originally Posted by Tom

you can infact if you get pulled over randomly and fail the first breath test (cant be used as evidence in court) they will then ask you to do the second breath test the bag (refuse to do that one and demand a blood test) they cant do you for anything as you are requesting a blood test. they then have to take you to the station (where you are sobering up the whole time if you are drunk which you shouldnt be) get a qualified person to do it refuse to give one without a quallied person but then demand to talk to a lawyer (if you can get hold of one that time of night) refuse to give a blood test til you get a lawyer (which is provided for free) (convince him to come down to the station) refuse to give a blood test until you have consulted the lawyer once he has arrived and you have consulted him then give the blood test these are your rights

That's sneaky but it's a great idea!

I've been following this thread for a little while and I can understand when people have been pulled over by the cops they are usually too overwhelmed in the head to think of a way out. I don't condem illegal and dangerous acts but I do believe it's wise to build up a good knowledge of your civil rights, and at times it could be the difference between a warning and a hefty fine.

In areas of traffic offences especially, knowing a few rights makes good practice and it could literally save your arse. Of course, there's always going to be people out there who are gonna be more savvy than you and have that natural ability to think on their feet.

If I think I have a chance to avoid punishment I will certainly try and push my luck because I hate to regret later that I could have made a difference.

**HungusMaximist** · 25th July 2007, 00:35

Originally Posted by Tom

i believe the guy on the vespa is innocent and should of not been given that ticket

Cop was doing his job but it pissed me off that he got a fine for it.

And as for the rider, I thought he was a bit of a legend doing these trips to his batch in taupo on his little scootah.

It even had these custom side panniers!

Respect.

**janno** · 25th July 2007, 08:07

In Qld you can be ticketed for doing 20km below the motorway speed (ie the general traffic speed at the given time so taking rush hour into account etc) if the conditions are otherwise non-hazardous. I believe it's up to the cops discretion - probably if you are holding up a long line of traffic they would invoke that law.

Also, in Perth anyway where I did my learners a coupla years ago, you were restricted to 80km top speed on an L plate, and the road code specifically listed the roads this meant you were banned from. That system worked quite well - no chance of misinterpretation.

You simply don't see the small capacity scoots on the motorways here - they would get squished flat in five seconds and probably the dozy driver wouldn't even notice.

Bumpitty bump - gee, that was a big roo . . .

**MSTRS:Me** · 25th July 2007, 09:14

The guy got a ticket for 'obstructing the flow of traffic'.
I don't believe that a stated speed will be on the ticket, but so what if there was? The guy on the scooter was a right prat being on the motorway in the first place - there are alternative roads he could have used.

**ManDownUnder** · 25th July 2007, 09:28

Originally Posted by MSTRS

The guy got a ticket for 'obstructing the flow of traffic'.
I don't believe that a stated speed will be on the ticket, but so what if there was? The guy on the scooter was a right prat being on the motorway in the first place - there are alternative roads he could have used.

Bingo. +10 chars.

**Angusdog** · 25th July 2007, 09:57

I don't think the scooter rider was the full quid. I'm not calling him a retard, I'm saying that by the way he spoke and behaved, I don't think may have not had the mental capacity to fully understand the situation and I don't think the cop was very understanding at all.

Instead of giving the guy a ticket, the cop should have explained it better and got on with what he did in the end: shadowing the guy and ensuring he got off the motorway. The cop should have also explained a better route than the motorway.

Loved the way the scooter rider tried to pay the fine on the spot.