Don't like this, much, either!

[Edbear]

Just been on the phone to my mate, Lumere. He was coming down Waiwera hill heading back into Orewa yesterday and a car decided that there were two passing lanes going up rather than one! Clipped his mirror and damn near broke his hand! He thought it was broken at first, but apparently just badly bruised! His arm's in a sling and he's in a bit of shock today, so I'm popping around to see him this arvo.

He wonders how he'd have fared if he hadn't had such a solid bike, (VL1500)...

Naturally, the driver didn't stop to see how he was and it happened too fast for him to get the reg. In fact, no-one stopped to see if he was alright!

Be extra careful, peeps! They ARE out to get you!

[Katman]

Sorry about your mate, but I actually think too many motorcyclists too readily assume the 'victim mentality'. Motorcyclists need to take on more of a defensive riding style rather than just crying that "it wasn't my fault". Let's face it, it's not a particularly safe world out there and it's our responsibiltiy to lessen the risks that we face.

[Edbear]

Sorry about your mate, but I actually think too many motorcyclists too readily assume the 'victim mentality'. Motorcyclists need to take on more of a defensive riding style rather than just crying that "it wasn't my fault". Let's face it, it's not a particularly safe world out there and it's our responsibiltiy to lessen the risks that we face.

Check his posting, he posted "Near Miss" in the newbies thread. He's a mature rider and had recently taken a BRONZ refresher course which he credits with saving his life.

[Pancakes]

Sorry about your mate, but I actually think too many motorcyclists too readily assume the 'victim mentality'. Motorcyclists need to take on more of a defensive riding style rather than just crying that "it wasn't my fault". Let's face it, it's not a particularly safe world out there and it's our responsibiltiy to lessen the risks that we face.

Cock.

He was a victim for a start. Doesn't sound like it was his fault either. I'm pretty sure we are all aware of our mortality and the risks of riding. You should sell your bike and bus everywhere to practice what you preach and lessen the risks.

And your still a cock.

[imdying]

Sorry about your mate, but I actually think too many motorcyclists too readily assume the 'victim mentality'. Motorcyclists need to take on more of a defensive riding style rather than just crying that "it wasn't my fault". Let's face it, it's not a particularly safe world out there and it's our responsibiltiy to lessen the risks that we face.

You're right up their in the rankings of cocksuckers this site has seen... the dude was a victim you festering pile of camel shit. Dammit... now I have to look twice at every Katana I see, I wouldn't want to miss running you over in the car. Then you can take a pretty picture of it and we can all be wowed at how cool you are

[canarlee]

Sorry about your mate, but I actually think too many motorcyclists too readily assume the 'victim mentality'. Motorcyclists need to take on more of a defensive riding style rather than just crying that "it wasn't my fault". Let's face it, it's not a particularly safe world out there and it's our responsibiltiy to lessen the risks that we face.

before you rip ALL the guts out of this statement, a little of it is true!


let me explain BEFORE you think you wanna rip my guts out too.....


the guy was riding a custom cruiser (probably a very dark coloured one which most of them are), i doubt very much if he was wearing any hi-viz (i have never seen a custom/cruiser rider [other than on big organized events and then its only the leaders and back markers] wearing hi-viz), we all know that in the daytime you cant allways tell how far a motorbike is away from you coz of the single headlight or even twin headlights (twin headlights on a bike might look like a car from a great distance giving the impression that he has time to pass?)!

so given all this and knowing that cagers are somewhat myopic he probably could have helped himself a little. i have noticed that while on the dark blue bandit i hardly get seen but on the fireblade ive not really had any problems, but the fireblade is bright YELLOW so you cant really miss it

also, why didnt your mate on the VL1500 see the cage coming on the wrong side of the road and pull right over to the left?



as you were.......

[imdying]

before you rip ALL the guts out of this statement, a little of it is true!

There is no doubt about that, he is indeed quite correct. Being proactive towards your own safety is what keeps you alive. That post however isn't applicable to the OP's mate. imho. Feel free to flame on if you think I'm fucked in the head... you know I would if the roles were reversed.

[canarlee]

not flaming at all mate, was just another take on that post tis all!

[Edbear]

before you rip ALL the guts out of this statement, a little of it is true!

let me explain BEFORE you think you wanna rip my guts out too.....

also, why didnt your mate on the VL1500 see the cage coming on the wrong side of the road and pull right over to the left?

as you were.......

Picture in your mind... Waiwera hill, Southern side, bottom corner.

The road was curving to the right coming downhill. John can confirm, but I'm sure he always rides with his lights on as I do.

Car towing horse float ascending the hill towards him was being overtaken on the passing lane blocking sight of the offending car which pulled out into oncoming traffic to overtake both vehicles - ergo, three abreast using all the road. John had little time to react due to the close distance of the oncoming vehicles.

From John's perspective - the road curve meant the vehicles were obscured behind the horse float. John was doing between 80-85km/h. At a closing speed of in excess of 160km/h assuming the offending vehicle was doing at least 90km/h to overtake, he would have had only a plit second to see the car and react. He did in fact react fast enough to avoid a head-on, which he says was a certainty had he not been able to chink left.

[Edbear]

PS. The colour of the bike would have meant squat in this circumstance...

[canarlee]

ahh well now we know the fuller story!

then yes, that poster above is a tosser lol


as you were....

[deanohit]

Jeez sounds like he was really lucky. Guess you cant do much to prevent something like this happening again. Luck of the draw I guess.

[Edbear]

Jeez sounds like he was really lucky. Guess you cant do much to prevent something like this happening again. Luck of the draw I guess.

Hey! I learned how to multi-quote!

Yep, he was lucky! Sometimes, despite everything we can do, we get done by someone who just can't play by the rules and blindsides us!

ahh well now we know the fuller story!

then yes, that poster above is a tosser lol

as you were....

Well, he wasn't wrong in general, just maybe could have asked a bit about the circumstances of this case before making generalisations.

We can tend to be a bit reactionary and defensive at times and feel we're being "got at" when that's not really the intention. Also, some of us are better at wording things than others...(At least that's what 30 years of marriage has taught me...

[Swoop]

Be extra careful, peeps! They ARE out to get you!

There has been something in the air, recently, that cagers are sniffing.
Fuckwitism at the wheel appears to be spreading, so yes! be extra careful out there!

[Panther]

Being proactive towards your own safety is what keeps you alive.

I think this is very relevant to the KB forum as we have such a diverse range of road riders. Do we have a proactive safety section for noobies and permanent noobies to read up on?