Indicating at roundabouts

[denill]

Jeepers you guys!

Ok then! Take the words "perhaps more than not indicating at all." off the end.

And then re read! I only said it because thats the other main problem at roundabouts not because I meant to do it.
Bloody hell you guys lookin for a scrap or what! Have a nice day!

Can I suggest - everyone puts on their hazard lights at a roundabout. Cos that's how it is.

FFS if you're going straight ahead, just do it! Don't try and be TOOO smart.

[denill]

How is he to know if I am not indicating what my intentions are? He assumes I am going straight ahead, moves off, only to wear me in his driver's door because I was actually planning to go right but wasn't indicating? What a fucktard he'd feel then!

Ya lost me there. As did the guy who wore you in his drivers door?

[Goblin]

Can I suggest - everyone puts on their hazard lights. Cos that's how it is.

I'm gunna do that!

[kevie]

Hitch the whole idea is about flow and if you indicate right and don't intend to go that far around, the guy on the opposite side who is waiting to go straight through thinks you are going to turn infront of him, and he waits for you. Until you bail out and quickly flick your indicator to the left when he could have takin off as you where entering or just after. And that is what annoys the rest of us perhaps more than not indicating at all.

This is sooooo true ... I drive a 20 metre Scania truck and trailor unit, and at over 40 tonne it takes a while to get the beast rolling even tho it is a 500HP V8 Turbo.... when motorists enter the roundabout indicating right we naturally stop to give way to them, then they switch to left and exit before they reach us .... an opportunity to go is lost and this causes often huge delays for traffic behind the rigs.
incidentally of 10 cop cars I have seen at roundabouts only 2 of them indicated correctly so its not just the motorists that get it wrong !

And re the driving instructors ....I FAILED the Nat cert in commercial heavy road transport .... why ??? ..... because I refused to drive as instructed ..... I drive using a ballance of common sence, courtesy and the law... that was apparently a nono as I must drive ONLY according to the law .... if this is how drivers are taught no wonder we have a killing feild on the roads.
I do over 300,000km a year, have held drivers licences for 38 years and NEVER had an at fault road traffic accident! Im proud of that and give total credit to Don Williams who taught me initially to drive.

[Goblin]

... if this is how drivers are taught no wonder we have a killing feild on the roads.

But it's SPEED that kills...not a lack of common sense.

A lawyer once told me that you can throw ALL common sense out the window when it comes to law.

[Max Preload]

Probably a year or two ago the law changed making it compulsary to indicate when coming off a roundabout, eg. turning right you indicate right going around the island and then when approaching your exit you indicate left.

Nothing changed - they just said that to make stupid people who never obeyed the rules or were never taught properly a face-saving out. "Oh - that's a new rule!". I was taught to indicate on roundabouts exactly the same way in '87 by a driving instructor.

Oh, and you should indicate left as soon as you're passing the last exit that you're not taking.

[Max Preload]

Or starts reversing without indicating.

So in that case don't complain when a driver moves lanes without indicating.............

Or sits parked on the left, with the wheels turned right, indicating right while you're approaching on the bike as happened to me yesterday. And these retards wondered why I slowed to a crawl and blipped the horn - how the fuck am I supposed to know they've seen me when they're giving all the signals of an immediately impending u-turn right in front of me?

[denill]

This is sooooo true ... I drive a 20 metre Scania truck and trailor unit, and at over 40 tonne it takes a while to get the beast rolling even tho it is a 500HP V8 Turbo.... when motorists enter the roundabout indicating right we naturally stop to give way to them, then they switch to left and exit before they reach us .... an opportunity to go is lost and this causes often huge delays for traffic behind the rigs.

Hey Hitch and you other dudes with over-active R/H indicators. Pleeeaase read Kevies post again and think carefully that it just may make sense.

If you're goin straight ahead, just do it. Don't make a meal of it.

[Hitcher]

Hey Hitch and you other dudes with over-active R/H indicators. Pleeeaase read Kevies post again and think carefully that it just may make sense.

If you're goin straight ahead, just do it. Don't make a meal of it.

This is nonsense. By "over-indicating" as some people call it, everybody knows what we are doing. A truckie or any other approaching motorist knows exactly what we have planned and is then better able to plan their approach and maintain momentum -- more so that if we didn't indicate at all, or the minimalist approach advocated by some and the Road Code.

[denill]

This is nonsense. By "over-indicating" as some people call it, everybody knows what we are doing. A truckie or any other approaching motorist knows exactly what we have planned and is then better able to plan their approach and maintain momentum -- more so that if we didn't indicate at all, or the minimalist approach advocated by some and the Road Code.

You're kidding yourself and as you are blinkered Hitch I don't expect to change anything. But FFS, if you signal with your right indicator most expect you to turn right. But you don't. You never were - but only you knew that. You go straight ahead? And the guy at the next entrance to the roundabout has still got his brakes on, all cos of you Hitch. Ya got another one Hitch. You didn't really read kevies post did ya?

I give up!

[Hitcher]

I give up!

Me too. There is none so blind as those who can't read Braille with a hook. Under your scenario nobody should indicate at all. I can't see any difference between somebody who indicates right and then left, to somebody who doesn't indicate (are they, aren't they?) and then continues to go right anyway. Eyes, I think they called. And they're generally connected by an optic nerve to a brain.

But hey, I don't like people on buses stabbing their fellow passengers with 25cm-long blades either. I guess I'm just hopelessly out of step with what others consider reasonable. Poor me.

[jrandom]

But hey, I don't like people on buses stabbing their fellow passengers with 25cm-long blades either. I guess I'm just hopelessly out of step with what others consider reasonable. Poor me.

An unnaturally acidic comment for you of an evening, old boy. I prescribe a little of the Speyside malt.

For what it's worth, I find myself unable to generate much strong feeling in either direction regarding the 'over-indicating' debate. I, personally, tend not to indicate upon entry when the exit is definitely straight ahead, but I don't castigate those who do indicate right in such situations.

People who indicate misleadingly, or not at all, though, irritate me no end.

[bmz2]

the law is an ass , what ever happened to the roundabout law , the vechile in the roundabout has right away at all times, yes indication is required if turning left or right , but when not changing direction , the size of nz roundabouts are in somecases to small to correctly indicate and when going straight at a roundabout, time you get to the indication point you are though the otherside before the indicator operates,you may get one flash, it all looks good in the pictures, so to make this law work you must slow down to a speed that will allow you to exit the r/bout, that will take you 3 seconds from the last lane on you left to the exit point ,SO SLOW DOWN IN ROUNDABOUTS AND HOLD TRAFFIC UP

[denill]

Me too. There is none so blind as those who can't read Braille with a hook. Under your scenario nobody should indicate at all.

Dunno if you're blind or not but you're not a mind reader. Under my scenario - if I turn left, I use the left turn indicator - If I turn right, I use the right turn indicator - If I'm going straight ahead, I don't use any indicators.

[boomer]

Sure its only an extra second or two to wait and I can live with that, but the problem is when you have a line of traffic all waiting an extra couple seconds then bingo we have ourselves another traffic jam to add to our fine collection in Auckland.

You'd be surprised at how much an extra couple seconds per car/bike can help traffic flow.

stop ya whinning; i bet YOU a $1000 you've over looked or broken the law somewhere along the line... how many people have u pissed of?!

get over it.

and for the record, i indicate all the time.. even when i'm not turning! and when i'm not indicating it's cos i'm going too fast